I don't know what planet you're from, but on this planet "one vote" will not buy the same amount of influence as a Wall Street lobbyist, ergo, without economic equality, democracy is just another meaningless word. Shut the fuck up, go back to sleep, and let the grown-ups talk.

Generally, most people like to be able to keep the fruits of their own work, but the inequalities that this creates over time are a perfectly valid target for democracy. Socialdemocrats like to keep a big redistribution machine. Liberalists like a lean state. No idea what you guys want, wealth just falling down from the heavens without having to work for it or think about it?

Abstruse, you sound like a well-intentioned idealist, but how old are you, 12-13…? For how long do you think you would solve the housing and economic problems, if you basically abolished the banking system? You could also force hospitals to pay for all the sick people, then you would abolish hospitals too.

John: do you believe in aliens and ghosts as well?

Check out subvertednation.net for real americans who are fighting back against all the "names" these people have. Look at mankinds one true enemy, the one group of people that have constantly screwed people over, even so called friends.

Democracy is a SCAM. America is a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC Tarik, stop blabbering about something you know nothing about. Democracy is a communist ploy. Its a stepping stone to communism, then despotism.

Learn the hard facts. http://www.subvertednation.net

What I want and I think what everyone wants is solutions. What solutions are you bringing to the table? I’m not asking you to agree with me, but together we can come up with some solutions to end the corruption that’s plaguing us.

Here are some of my solutions:

What is the solution to unemployment? First of all, we need to reduce or eliminate of the amount of rent or mortgage we pay. If Americans were not paying any rent or mortgages, we could live on just a few dollars a day, and only worry primarily about food. The government has to find jobs for about 20 MILLION UNEMPLOYED PEOPLE! Many of the jobs that were lost may never come back and are gone forever. There are simply too many people competing for the same dwindling, scarce jobs. There is simply too much competition from overseas laborers who are willing to work for much cheaper; such as in China where they surely are not paying $600-$900 in rent a month to live. They can live on as cheaply as a dollar a day! We could too if we didn’t have to pay comparable rents or mortgages.

The solution to getting cheap or free space to live is to stop foreclosures. If it were possible to pressure the banks to stop a foreclosure, people could stay in their houses virtually rent and mortgage-free, since the whole idea behind property is the banks’ ability to throw people out of their houses using police force through foreclosure and eviction.

If people were to form network groups of family and friends of about 200 to 500 people, they could be a force to be reckoned with. They could support each other if the banks try to foreclose on one of their members. Supporting members could do runs on the bank to frighten the banks to back off. If it’s one thing the banks hate, it’s bad publicity in the form of lines of people taking out their money. The banks would surely listen to this form of intimidation. Lines of 500 people or more would send shockwaves to their system. Any bad publicity would undermine their business. They have too many other foreclosures to worry about anyway. Group members receiving help would be obligated to help other members when they get foreclosed on. Once word gets out, members from the group could meet banks ahead of protests and negotiate to leave people in their homes in exchange for not running on the bank (Do not bring signs or bullhorns at bank protests, it must look like a regular bank run). You can bad mouth them when the reporters come to cover the run. But other than that, you are there to do a legal transaction. For those who have no accounts, they could open very small accounts as a form of protest to tie up the system. If you are arrested or harassed, you could sue the banks and the police, causing more problems for them.

Once the banks cannot foreclose or evict because of strong network support, there is no sense in paying them mortgage payments anymore, and then people could live very cheaply and in comfort supporting each other.

The homeowners who decide not to join these groups will be on their own and at the mercy of the job market and authorities. And if they get evicted, others can move into their homes under the protection and support of their neighborhood group. People can choose to go by law and be evicted to their own detriment.

We can get together today and form these groups. Make a list of family and friends, and get them to sign up in your community. Organize and start bank run meets. We need security, not bills, and slavery! Or are we waiting for the bank to throw us out on the street?

Until there is ECONOMIC democracy, there can be no POLITICAL democracy. There is nothing "democratic" about 1-percent of the population owning 95-percent of the wealth. The queen of England owns and controls 1/6 of the planet's land mass. Talk about "democratic processes" in light of this reality is absurd.

I may also criticise US foreign policy and society in many ways, but I DO NOT DISMISS democracy, just because it produces outcomes that I happen to disagree with.

"Each political protest that attempts to open people’s eyes to the world of untruths which constantly inundates us,.."

Really, you think protesting in the street will "open people's eyes"? Well, only to how naive, paranoid and intolerant left-wing protesters are. Join the democratic process and make your case as best you can. All the weeping is just a pathetic excuse for your inability to convince with all your sanctimonious nonsense.

The root of all evil is where the power lies, its tool of control and reward or punishment is called money
its source is as limmitless as the mind, like a drug induces dependency this tool the beast weilds has
souls not even selling but giving themselves away meekly to the oppresors which holds them in fear,
confusion and contempt. In the cold light of day humanity will have to realise that without disarming this
money tool the beast uses daily, it is condemd to sevitude and slavery, for as long as humanity believes
in the need for money to interact between each other is as long as we are going to pay in satan's system.

Let the trials begin!

Some will not die. Some will not comply.

It's coming.

Don't worry Mary, there are those of us who have gone through what you describe here, and it is we, who reject the machinery of the great American state, AKA THE GREAT SATAN, who will defeat these people. We who have been tortured and abused and survived waiting for the day of revenge, we will show these people their reward, and we will bring them violence beyond their imagination.

They told me that I am a Machaivellian, that I was selected for this privlege…most such poeple feel very special you know, they feel vindicated and lifted above their fellow man, they feel a kind of recognition…I felt that for a day or two…but it wore off and was replaced by the wisdom of time…these men stole my life, and if I ever get a chance, I will exterminate them, their families, and perhaps the American race, for they are beyond evil.