Comments on: Zahi Khouri – Think Again: Palestine http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/09/25/think-again-palestine/ Free Minds for a Free Palestine Thu, 18 Mar 2010 19:10:01 +0300 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: sami jamil jadallah http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/09/25/think-again-palestine/#comment-12017 sami jamil jadallah Fri, 02 Oct 2009 16:21:37 +0000 http://palestinethinktank.com/?p=4606#comment-12017 The decision of the Ramallah leadership to seek postponement (burial) of the decision on the Goldstone report of Israeli war crimes, confirm again that Ramallah, PLO, Fatah and PA and the Palestinian Oligarch are all about the economic business of the continued Jewish Occupation. One has to wonder how many millions the Palestinian business leadership will will make out of the deal for the second cellular license. This is of course in addition to the fear that Israel will expose the Fatah leadership promoting and cheer leading the war on Gaza. When I say there is something wrong with us as people I do mean it, and events do confirm it every day. The money they make is blood money, the blood of thousands of innocent people. Thank you Ramallah for 45 years of successful leadership for and on behalf of Israel. The decision of the Ramallah leadership to seek postponement (burial) of the decision on the Goldstone report of Israeli war crimes, confirm again that Ramallah, PLO, Fatah and PA and the Palestinian Oligarch are all about the economic business of the continued Jewish Occupation. One has to wonder how many millions the Palestinian business leadership will will make out of the deal for the second cellular license. This is of course in addition to the fear that Israel will expose the Fatah leadership promoting and cheer leading the war on Gaza. When I say there is something wrong with us as people I do mean it, and events do confirm it every day. The money they make is blood money, the blood of thousands of innocent people. Thank you Ramallah for 45 years of successful leadership for and on behalf of Israel.

]]> By: كارول http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/09/25/think-again-palestine/#comment-11977 كارول Thu, 01 Oct 2009 08:45:36 +0000 http://palestinethinktank.com/?p=4606#comment-11977 عزيزي زاهي، باهتمام شديد قرأت مقالك تحت عنوان "معاودة التفكير: فلسطين" للحظات شعرت اني اتفق معك في كل شيء ذكر في المقال. لكن وفي الوقت ذاته استحضرتني مواقف وتصريحات لحضرتكم كنت قد شاركت بها وشهدت عليها، والاف الاسئلة خطرت ببالي ولهذا السبب اكتب لكم اليوم انا في امس الحاجة ان احصل على اجوبة لاطروحاتكم الجديدة، فهي اما ان تكون مؤشرا على قدوم الخلاص، او تأكيدا للحال المضارع من الانهزام. وفي كلا الحالتين، وكمتلقي يحترم نفسه ويحترم ما يقرأ بغض الطرف، انت مدين لي ولكل من قرأ بالاجابة. زاهي (ما اجمل اسمك، كثر هي معانيه) العزيز، اود ان اعرف وبعد قرأتي مقالكم: 1- ما هو البديل في ادارة الصراع في نظركم؟ كيف سنتخلص من الاحتلال وباية طرق ان كانت الصواريخ، والحجارة والقلم ممنوعة! ! انا كمواطنة بحاجة لنظم واطر او استراتجيات تساعدني على التخلص من مغتصبي اليومي. 2- هل افهم من مقالكم انكم ستقاطعون زيارة طوني بلير المقبلة؟ ان كنت قد ادركت عدم جدوى النقاش بدون انتهاء الاحتلال! 3- متى سنعترف بفشل اوسلو بشكل عملي تكتيكي ولغرض المضي قدما في تحرير البشر والحجر ليس الا؟ 4- الست في حالة اشتياق لاحتلال من طرف واحد (اسرائيلي) فقط لاغير؟ 5- هناك حالة نوستلجيا عارمة عند معظم الفلسطينين...هل احسستها؟ 6- هل ستعمل على ترسيخ نهج مقاطعة الاحتلال، ابتدا من بضائع وثقافة وانتهاءا برموزه وشخصياته؟ 7- اما زلت تؤمن بالمجتمع الدولي؟ هل قرأت مؤخرا اخبار هندوراس واليمن؟ زاهي، اخيرا وليس (100%) اخرا، اني لا اقصد التجريح ولا الاستهتار ولا التخويين. انا استجدي التنوير. ولا حياء في العلم (ان صح التعبير). لارسم خارطة فلسطيني. مع خالص الشوق عزيزي زاهي،
باهتمام شديد قرأت مقالك تحت عنوان "معاودة التفكير: فلسطين"
للحظات شعرت اني اتفق معك في كل شيء ذكر في المقال. لكن وفي الوقت ذاته استحضرتني مواقف وتصريحات لحضرتكم كنت قد شاركت بها وشهدت عليها، والاف الاسئلة خطرت ببالي
ولهذا السبب اكتب لكم اليوم
انا في امس الحاجة ان احصل على اجوبة لاطروحاتكم الجديدة، فهي اما ان تكون مؤشرا على قدوم الخلاص، او تأكيدا للحال المضارع من الانهزام. وفي كلا الحالتين، وكمتلقي يحترم نفسه ويحترم ما يقرأ بغض الطرف، انت مدين لي ولكل من قرأ بالاجابة.
زاهي (ما اجمل اسمك، كثر هي معانيه) العزيز،
اود ان اعرف وبعد قرأتي مقالكم:
1- ما هو البديل في ادارة الصراع في نظركم؟ كيف سنتخلص من الاحتلال وباية طرق ان كانت الصواريخ، والحجارة والقلم ممنوعة! ! انا كمواطنة بحاجة لنظم واطر او استراتجيات تساعدني على التخلص من مغتصبي اليومي.
2- هل افهم من مقالكم انكم ستقاطعون زيارة طوني بلير المقبلة؟ ان كنت قد ادركت عدم جدوى النقاش بدون انتهاء الاحتلال!
3- متى سنعترف بفشل اوسلو بشكل عملي تكتيكي ولغرض المضي قدما في تحرير البشر والحجر ليس الا؟
4- الست في حالة اشتياق لاحتلال من طرف واحد (اسرائيلي) فقط لاغير؟
5- هناك حالة نوستلجيا عارمة عند معظم الفلسطينين…هل احسستها؟
6- هل ستعمل على ترسيخ نهج مقاطعة الاحتلال، ابتدا من بضائع وثقافة وانتهاءا برموزه وشخصياته؟
7- اما زلت تؤمن بالمجتمع الدولي؟ هل قرأت مؤخرا اخبار هندوراس واليمن؟
زاهي،
اخيرا وليس (100%) اخرا، اني لا اقصد التجريح ولا الاستهتار ولا التخويين. انا استجدي التنوير. ولا حياء في العلم (ان صح التعبير). لارسم خارطة فلسطيني.
مع خالص الشوق

]]> By: bozh http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/09/25/think-again-palestine/#comment-11879 bozh Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:54:54 +0000 http://palestinethinktank.com/?p=4606#comment-11879 If my observation that we have no longer imperialism and nationalism is even partially correct, but planetism; of which the small larceny of the christo-talmudic cultists in expalestine, appears a part, then we can only expect that the ROR and one binational state will never be allowed. Planetism appears as a quest to eradicate most or all basic panhuman rights. I use the prefix "pan" because 'jews' do not think most people are human, but s'mthing less than that; thus the avoidance of use of the word "human". And not just to mul[a]tos with mosheic-talmudic cult but also by many noncutists. Planetism appears as a quest by world plutos for all of the planet. But this 'discovery' is no news; most observers knew that plutos of an empire have wanted over 10k-15k yrs to posses as much of the known world as possible. Plutos are no longer waging wars agaisnt each other; they are united now in the quest for the planet of which the petty larceny of one acre here, two houses, or three trees there is a mere part. The most imporatant question to ask wld be: Can we stop the plutos? Yes we can. Thru education! tnx If my observation that we have no longer imperialism and nationalism is even partially correct, but planetism; of which the small larceny of the christo-talmudic cultists in expalestine, appears a part, then we can only expect that the ROR and one binational state will never be allowed.

Planetism appears as a quest to eradicate most or all basic panhuman rights. I use the prefix "pan" because 'jews' do not think most people are human, but s'mthing less than that; thus the avoidance of use of the word "human".
And not just to mul[a]tos with mosheic-talmudic cult but also by many noncutists.

Planetism appears as a quest by world plutos for all of the planet. But this 'discovery' is no news; most observers knew that plutos of an empire have wanted over 10k-15k yrs to posses as much of the known world as possible.
Plutos are no longer waging wars agaisnt each other; they are united now in the quest for the planet of which the petty larceny of one acre here, two houses, or three trees there is a mere part.

The most imporatant question to ask wld be: Can we stop the plutos? Yes we can. Thru education! tnx

]]> By: Sami Jamil Jadallah http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/09/25/think-again-palestine/#comment-11832 Sami Jamil Jadallah Sun, 27 Sep 2009 01:16:19 +0000 http://palestinethinktank.com/?p=4606#comment-11832 The not so brilliant Palestinian Trio of Arafat, Abbas and Qurai did not have an end to the Jewish Occupation or an independent Palestinian state or Jerusalem or the refugees. They only had one thing in mind when they signed Oslo. Their survival, the survival of the PLO and Fatah. This survival requires funding and money, money that they were entrusted with and tens of billions remaining unaccounted for. As such Oslo was a financial and management contract between Israel and the PLO/Fatah where by Israel was relieved of all of its legal and financial obligations as an occupying power shifting such burdens to the PLO and the Palestinian Authority, with the chance for the leadership to fleece and raid the national treasury as it has been doing for some 40 years. The two state solutions envisioned by Israel and the PLO is a Israel and the Jewish Settlers State of Judea and Samaria with the PLO having its own city state in the cities of Ramallah and El-Bireh. Too bad for Palestinians the likes of Mr. Zahi Khouri, Munib Al-Masri did not use their status as leading businessmen to bring about reforms and accountability and transparency to a the PLO, and the Palestinian Authority. Since our people could never make a difference or affect a change in the leadership perhaps the leaders of the business community could make a difference with Ramallah making sure the leadership change from a contractor for the Jewish Occupation to a leadership that works for ending the Jewish Occupation. Too much vested business and financial interests between Israel and the leadership to make ending the occupation a possibility. Perhaps it the likes of Mr. Khouri and Mr. Al-Masri that should lead and organize a civil uprising that drives both Israel and the Palestinian Authority out of business. Time for Mahmoud Abbas to hand over the keys of the Occupations to Tel-Aviv and not let Israel off the hook as an occupation power. I am sure the leadership will do its best to support an economic prosperity over political independence as long as the leadership gets its 3,000 VIP passes, who gives a damn about the millions that has to wait hours and days at Israeli 650 security checkpoints. The business community must stops its collusion with a failed, corrupt and inept leadership in Ramallah. The not so brilliant Palestinian Trio of Arafat, Abbas and Qurai did not have an end to the Jewish Occupation or an independent Palestinian state or Jerusalem or the refugees. They only had one thing in mind when they signed Oslo. Their survival, the survival of the PLO and Fatah. This survival requires funding and money, money that they were entrusted with and tens of billions remaining unaccounted for. As such Oslo was a financial and management contract between Israel and the PLO/Fatah where by Israel was relieved of all of its legal and financial obligations as an occupying power shifting such burdens to the PLO and the Palestinian Authority, with the chance for the leadership to fleece and raid the national treasury as it has been doing for some 40 years. The two state solutions envisioned by Israel and the PLO is a Israel and the Jewish Settlers State of Judea and Samaria with the PLO having its own city state in the cities of Ramallah and El-Bireh. Too bad for Palestinians the likes of Mr. Zahi Khouri, Munib Al-Masri did not use their status as leading businessmen to bring about reforms and accountability and transparency to a the PLO, and the Palestinian Authority. Since our people could never make a difference or affect a change in the leadership perhaps the leaders of the business community could make a difference with Ramallah making sure the leadership change from a contractor for the Jewish Occupation to a leadership that works for ending the Jewish Occupation. Too much vested business and financial interests between Israel and the leadership to make ending the occupation a possibility. Perhaps it the likes of Mr. Khouri and Mr. Al-Masri that should lead and organize a civil uprising that drives both Israel and the Palestinian Authority out of business. Time for Mahmoud Abbas to hand over the keys of the Occupations to Tel-Aviv and not let Israel off the hook as an occupation power. I am sure the leadership will do its best to support an economic prosperity over political independence as long as the leadership gets its 3,000 VIP passes, who gives a damn about the millions that has to wait hours and days at Israeli 650 security checkpoints. The business community must stops its collusion with a failed, corrupt and inept leadership in Ramallah.

]]> By: Edna http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/09/25/think-again-palestine/#comment-11809 Edna Sat, 26 Sep 2009 09:25:37 +0000 http://palestinethinktank.com/?p=4606#comment-11809 Compared to Israel's treatment of the Palestinians, what existed in South Africa was actually Aparheid Lite, in retrospect. Compared to the genocide that has taken place in Palestine over the past 60 years, it was almost a walk in the park! As awful as it was, the apartheid government in SA never imposed separate roads for different "races", it never penned people into concentration camps and then bombed them from the air with illegal weapons, it never held millions of people under siege without food and water. Children were not shot in their classrooms for fun. And it didn't harvest the internal organs of its population either!! Compared to Israel's treatment of the Palestinians, what existed in South Africa was actually Aparheid Lite, in retrospect. Compared to the genocide that has taken place in Palestine over the past 60 years, it was almost a walk in the park! As awful as it was, the apartheid government in SA never imposed separate roads for different "races", it never penned people into concentration camps and then bombed them from the air with illegal weapons, it never held millions of people under siege without food and water. Children were not shot in their classrooms for fun. And it didn't harvest the internal organs of its population either!!

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