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		<title>By: Barbara</title>
		<link>http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/07/15/the-hasbara-booklet-just-lie/#comment-10705</link>
		<dc:creator>Barbara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 00:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you take this oath, can you use the Kol Nidre to get out of it?  Or can you say it and know your ass is already covered and it means nothing anyway?  

OHHHHH darn! Only Talmudists can use that handy little prayer right?  Here is how it reads:  

&quot;ALL VOWS, OBLIGATIONS, OATHS OR ANTHEMS, PLEDGES OF ALL NAMES, WHICH WE HAVE VOWED, SWORN, DEVOTED, OR BOUND OURSELVES TO, FROM THIS DAY OF ATONEMENT, UNTIL THE NEXT DAY OF ATONEMENT (WHOSE ARRIVAL WE HOPE FOR IN HAPPINESS) WE REPENT, AFOREHAND, OF THEM ALL, THEY SHALL ALL BE DEEMED ABSOLVED, FORGIVEN, ANNULLED, VOID AND MADE OF NO EFFECT; THEY SHALL NOT BE BINDING, NOR HAVE ANY POWER; THE VOWS SHALL NOT BE RECKONED AS VOWS, THE OBLIGATIONS SHALL NOT BE OBLIGATORY, NOR THE OATHS CONSIDERED AS OATHS.&quot; ~ THE KOL NIDRE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you take this oath, can you use the Kol Nidre to get out of it?  Or can you say it and know your ass is already covered and it means nothing anyway?  </p>
<p>OHHHHH darn! Only Talmudists can use that handy little prayer right?  Here is how it reads:  </p>
<p>&#034;ALL VOWS, OBLIGATIONS, OATHS OR ANTHEMS, PLEDGES OF ALL NAMES, WHICH WE HAVE VOWED, SWORN, DEVOTED, OR BOUND OURSELVES TO, FROM THIS DAY OF ATONEMENT, UNTIL THE NEXT DAY OF ATONEMENT (WHOSE ARRIVAL WE HOPE FOR IN HAPPINESS) WE REPENT, AFOREHAND, OF THEM ALL, THEY SHALL ALL BE DEEMED ABSOLVED, FORGIVEN, ANNULLED, VOID AND MADE OF NO EFFECT; THEY SHALL NOT BE BINDING, NOR HAVE ANY POWER; THE VOWS SHALL NOT BE RECKONED AS VOWS, THE OBLIGATIONS SHALL NOT BE OBLIGATORY, NOR THE OATHS CONSIDERED AS OATHS.&#034; ~ THE KOL NIDRE</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/07/15/the-hasbara-booklet-just-lie/#comment-10465</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 20:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-10459&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@lyn&lt;/a&gt; - 
Hi Lyn

Good comment.  It should also be remembered that native Palestinian/Arab Jews, who comprised 10% of all Jews in Palestine in 1948, were vehemently anti-Zionist.  Indeed, prior to the massive immigration of foreign Jews (only 30% of whom took out citizenship) under the umbrella of the British Mandate, Palestinian Muslims, Christians, Jews and Druze lived together in harmony and peace.  Many Jewish women married Palestinian Muslims and retained their faith.  The lies that zionists have spread regarding the status of Jews in the Arab world as a whole is another story that needs to be told.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='#comment-10459' rel="nofollow">@lyn</a> &#8211;<br />
Hi Lyn</p>
<p>Good comment.  It should also be remembered that native Palestinian/Arab Jews, who comprised 10% of all Jews in Palestine in 1948, were vehemently anti-Zionist.  Indeed, prior to the massive immigration of foreign Jews (only 30% of whom took out citizenship) under the umbrella of the British Mandate, Palestinian Muslims, Christians, Jews and Druze lived together in harmony and peace.  Many Jewish women married Palestinian Muslims and retained their faith.  The lies that zionists have spread regarding the status of Jews in the Arab world as a whole is another story that needs to be told.</p>
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		<title>By: lyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>lyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 01:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding Fayyad&#039;s statement on Jews who become Palestinian citizens with full rights, it&#039;s notable that:

a) in 1930, a Palestinian Arab delegation to the British colonial secretary demanded a parliament be set up in Palestine &quot;elected by the people in proportion to their numbers, irrespective of race or creed.&quot;  The demand was denied by the colonial secretary, basically, because to establish the &quot;national home for Jews in Palestine,&quot; i.e. to establish the Zionist colonies in Palestine required helping the Zionists in many ways including giving Jewish colonists superior political power.

b) Establishing a state with equal rights regardless of creed was the PLO stance at least until they agreed to the so-called 2-state solution in 1988.

c) A Jew, Ilan Halevi, served as vice minister of foreign affairs for the PLO delegation to the Madrid Conference in 1991.  That&#039;s well before any Israeli Arabs served as ministers to any Israeli government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding Fayyad&#039;s statement on Jews who become Palestinian citizens with full rights, it&#039;s notable that:</p>
<p>a) in 1930, a Palestinian Arab delegation to the British colonial secretary demanded a parliament be set up in Palestine &#034;elected by the people in proportion to their numbers, irrespective of race or creed.&#034;  The demand was denied by the colonial secretary, basically, because to establish the &#034;national home for Jews in Palestine,&#034; i.e. to establish the Zionist colonies in Palestine required helping the Zionists in many ways including giving Jewish colonists superior political power.</p>
<p>b) Establishing a state with equal rights regardless of creed was the PLO stance at least until they agreed to the so-called 2-state solution in 1988.</p>
<p>c) A Jew, Ilan Halevi, served as vice minister of foreign affairs for the PLO delegation to the Madrid Conference in 1991.  That&#039;s well before any Israeli Arabs served as ministers to any Israeli government.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/07/15/the-hasbara-booklet-just-lie/#comment-10436</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-10427&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@kevin&lt;/a&gt; - 

Kevin

You live in a fantasy world, unable to distinguish between the occupied and the occupier.  To the best of my knowledge, no other occupied people have been forced to negotiate an end to their occupation with their occupier.  Was Kuwait expected to negotiate with Iraq?  For that matter, was France expected to negotiate when it was occupied by Germany in WWII?
Actually, going back to 1988, when Arafat and the PLO formally accepted UNSC Res. 242, they agreed to recognize Israel in accordance with international law (e.g., the UN Charter and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the Fourth Geneva Convention, all signed by Israel) within its pre-1967 war boundaries.   Israel rebuffed this peace overture as well as others, including the 2002 Arab League&#039;s Beirut Initiative, agreed to by the Palestinians.    Get educated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='#comment-10427' rel="nofollow">@kevin</a> &#8211; </p>
<p>Kevin</p>
<p>You live in a fantasy world, unable to distinguish between the occupied and the occupier.  To the best of my knowledge, no other occupied people have been forced to negotiate an end to their occupation with their occupier.  Was Kuwait expected to negotiate with Iraq?  For that matter, was France expected to negotiate when it was occupied by Germany in WWII?<br />
Actually, going back to 1988, when Arafat and the PLO formally accepted UNSC Res. 242, they agreed to recognize Israel in accordance with international law (e.g., the UN Charter and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the Fourth Geneva Convention, all signed by Israel) within its pre-1967 war boundaries.   Israel rebuffed this peace overture as well as others, including the 2002 Arab League&#039;s Beirut Initiative, agreed to by the Palestinians.    Get educated.</p>
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		<title>By: kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which peace proposals have the Palestinians made that the Zionists haven&#039;t agreed to sign on to?  For that matter what peace proposals have they made at all?  Sure the Jews have always wanted to negotiate and not just accept what was proposed but at least they have agreed to sign on.  I don&#039;t think the same can be said of the Palestinians.  I believe that if the Palestinians were actually interested in peace or state they&#039;d of had it a long time ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which peace proposals have the Palestinians made that the Zionists haven&#039;t agreed to sign on to?  For that matter what peace proposals have they made at all?  Sure the Jews have always wanted to negotiate and not just accept what was proposed but at least they have agreed to sign on.  I don&#039;t think the same can be said of the Palestinians.  I believe that if the Palestinians were actually interested in peace or state they&#039;d of had it a long time ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaukat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaukat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“The Americans were responsible for creation of a gangster state headed by an utterly unscrupulous set of leaders,” – Sir John Troutbeck wrote in his letter to the foreign secretary, Ernest Bevin on June 2, 1948.

http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2009/07/16/the-war-on-terror-is-a-zionist-racket-stupid/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“The Americans were responsible for creation of a gangster state headed by an utterly unscrupulous set of leaders,” – Sir John Troutbeck wrote in his letter to the foreign secretary, Ernest Bevin on June 2, 1948.</p>
<p><a href="http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2009/07/16/the-war-on-terror-is-a-zionist-racket-stupid/" rel="nofollow">http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2009/07/16/the-war-on-terror-is-a-zionist-racket-stupid/</a></p>
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		<title>By: asiswhen</title>
		<link>http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/07/15/the-hasbara-booklet-just-lie/#comment-10398</link>
		<dc:creator>asiswhen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>exactly the reason why inclusivity is more effective than competing identities, and why the one state solution is the ultimate peace offensive</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>exactly the reason why inclusivity is more effective than competing identities, and why the one state solution is the ultimate peace offensive</p>
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