Comments on: Hisham Bustani – Thoughts out of Season: Critiquing the European Left http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/06/26/hisham-bustani-thoughts-out-of-season-critiquing-the-european-left/ Free Minds for a Free Palestine Sat, 20 Mar 2010 20:14:38 +0300 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Pensar fuera de la caja laica. La izquierda y el Islam « http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/06/26/hisham-bustani-thoughts-out-of-season-critiquing-the-european-left/#comment-10510 Pensar fuera de la caja laica. La izquierda y el Islam « Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:36:59 +0000 http://palestinethinktank.com/?p=3972#comment-10510 [...] http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/06/26/hisham-bustani-thoughts-out-of-season-critiquing-the-europe... (Traducción al castellano, [...] [...] http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/06/26/hisham-bustani-thoughts-out-of-season-critiquing-the-europe... (Traducción al castellano, [...]

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]]> By: Gilad Atzmon - Thinking out of the Secular Box: The Left and Islam | Palestine Think Tank http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/06/26/hisham-bustani-thoughts-out-of-season-critiquing-the-european-left/#comment-10354 Gilad Atzmon - Thinking out of the Secular Box: The Left and Islam | Palestine Think Tank Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:48:56 +0000 http://palestinethinktank.com/?p=3972#comment-10354 [...] a shift was suggested recently by Hisham Bustani, an independent Jordanian Marxist, stating: “The European left must make a serious critical [...] [...] a shift was suggested recently by Hisham Bustani, an independent Jordanian Marxist, stating: “The European left must make a serious critical [...]

]]> By: Arab European League - tutorial aa15699 http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/06/26/hisham-bustani-thoughts-out-of-season-critiquing-the-european-left/#comment-10344 Arab European League - tutorial aa15699 Sun, 12 Jul 2009 19:02:37 +0000 http://palestinethinktank.com/?p=3972#comment-10344 [...] Hisham Bustani - Thoughts out of Season: Critiquing the European Left [...] [...] Hisham Bustani – Thoughts out of Season: Critiquing the European Left [...]

]]> By: The Left and Islam « American Kafir http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/06/26/hisham-bustani-thoughts-out-of-season-critiquing-the-european-left/#comment-10325 The Left and Islam « American Kafir Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:27:13 +0000 http://palestinethinktank.com/?p=3972#comment-10325 [...] a shift was suggested recently by Hisham Bustani, an independent Jordanian Marxist, stating: “The European left must make a serious critical [...] [...] a shift was suggested recently by Hisham Bustani, an independent Jordanian Marxist, stating: “The European left must make a serious critical [...]

]]> By: Zarina Bhatia http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/06/26/hisham-bustani-thoughts-out-of-season-critiquing-the-european-left/#comment-10188 Zarina Bhatia Sun, 05 Jul 2009 20:47:15 +0000 http://palestinethinktank.com/?p=3972#comment-10188 Dr Hisham Bustani has refreshed my rusty brain that once studied social Anthropology at the University of Oxford, decades and decades ago, but today I only find Brookes College named rather than the Institute of Social Anthropology at the main university of Oxford taking part in the recent forthcoming Event in London on 9th July 2009. Strange! Apart from this personal egoistic interest, the whole article is admirable. Dr Hisham Bustani has refreshed my rusty brain that once studied social Anthropology at the University of Oxford, decades and decades ago, but today I only find Brookes College named rather than the Institute of Social Anthropology at the main university of Oxford taking part in the recent forthcoming Event in London on 9th July 2009. Strange!

Apart from this personal egoistic interest, the whole article is admirable.

]]> By: Gilad Atzmon - Tribal Marxism for Dummies | Palestine Think Tank http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/06/26/hisham-bustani-thoughts-out-of-season-critiquing-the-european-left/#comment-9929 Gilad Atzmon - Tribal Marxism for Dummies | Palestine Think Tank Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:42:45 +0000 http://palestinethinktank.com/?p=3972#comment-9929 [...] "The European left must make a serious critical assessment of this “we know better” attitude and the ways it tends to deal with popular forces in the south as ideologically and politically inferior." Hisham Bustani [...] [...] "The European left must make a serious critical assessment of this “we know better” attitude and the ways it tends to deal with popular forces in the south as ideologically and politically inferior." Hisham Bustani [...]

]]> By: Steven Frans http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/06/26/hisham-bustani-thoughts-out-of-season-critiquing-the-european-left/#comment-9880 Steven Frans Sat, 27 Jun 2009 11:39:10 +0000 http://palestinethinktank.com/?p=3972#comment-9880 Wouter Bos is a Dutch (not Danish) social democrat. Good article btw. Wouter Bos is a Dutch (not Danish) social democrat.

Good article btw.

]]> By: Eighth Dormant http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/06/26/hisham-bustani-thoughts-out-of-season-critiquing-the-european-left/#comment-9878 Eighth Dormant Sat, 27 Jun 2009 09:17:32 +0000 http://palestinethinktank.com/?p=3972#comment-9878 Good analysis. I agree on it in many points. But I tend to make it simpler. I read recently an article of an Israeli journalist who compared the separation fence in Palestine with the separation fence with Mexico and the restrictive immigration policies of US. He said that all western countries, as Israel, would have to build separation fences because of the excessive difference of economic welfare between the peoples on the different sides of the wall, and they would go down naturally when the difference will be less than a certain threshold. But, as you well know, the difference of welfare is due to military domination; this fact is blatantly clear in Palestine; but the colonialism was based on the same mechanisms; so it is today's imperialism or "war on terror" or on "rogue states". But lower classes in western countries still have a mich higher welfare than the one of their counterparts in "third world" countries, or at least they think so. Thus they see the immigration from third world countries as their bitter enemy, and they vote more and more for the right; the latest EU elections are a blatant warning of this trend, which will increase in the future. Until the western left, or liberals democrats will be uncapable to go beyond outdated marxist or classic liberal schemes and uncapabale to show that the militarization is a danger also for western average people, and won't begin to make understand that the immigration is linked to the demographic bomb, and that the demographic bomb is linked not to ignorance, but to the lack of welfare in third world countries, specially health care, retirement security and work security, the evolution of the left would be the one of a archelogic remnant; it will survive every day reduced by the action of time, or as Iranians say, it would be erased by the pages of time... Good analysis.
I agree on it in many points.
But I tend to make it simpler.
I read recently an article of an Israeli journalist who compared the separation fence in Palestine with the separation fence with Mexico and the restrictive immigration policies of US.
He said that all western countries, as Israel, would have to build separation fences because of the excessive difference of economic welfare between the peoples on the different sides of the wall, and they would go down naturally when the difference will be less than a certain threshold.
But, as you well know, the difference of welfare is due to military domination; this fact is blatantly clear in Palestine; but the colonialism was based on the same mechanisms; so it is today's imperialism or "war on terror" or on "rogue states".
But lower classes in western countries still have a mich higher welfare than the one of their counterparts in "third world" countries, or at least they think so.
Thus they see the immigration from third world countries as their bitter enemy, and they vote more and more for the right; the latest EU elections are a blatant warning of this trend, which will increase in the future.
Until the western left, or liberals democrats will be uncapable to go beyond outdated marxist or classic liberal schemes and uncapabale to show that the militarization is a danger also for western average people, and won't begin to make understand that the immigration is linked to the demographic bomb, and that the demographic bomb is linked not to ignorance, but to the lack of welfare in third world countries, specially health care, retirement security and work security, the evolution of the left would be the one of a archelogic remnant; it will survive every day reduced by the action of time, or as Iranians say, it would be erased by the pages of time…

]]> By: Hisham Bustani - Thoughts out of Season: Critiquing the European … | Algeria Today http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/06/26/hisham-bustani-thoughts-out-of-season-critiquing-the-european-left/#comment-9872 Hisham Bustani - Thoughts out of Season: Critiquing the European … | Algeria Today Sat, 27 Jun 2009 00:44:52 +0000 http://palestinethinktank.com/?p=3972#comment-9872 [...] More here: Hisham Bustani - Thoughts out of Season: Critiquing the European … [...] [...] More here: Hisham Bustani – Thoughts out of Season: Critiquing the European … [...]

]]> By: Gilad http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/06/26/hisham-bustani-thoughts-out-of-season-critiquing-the-european-left/#comment-9868 Gilad Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:44:25 +0000 http://palestinethinktank.com/?p=3972#comment-9868 This is a very important paper. Real scholarship.. Left in the Europe is indeed a pathetic concept. Actually it is not even a concept, just mode of speech. This is a very important paper. Real scholarship..
Left in the Europe is indeed a pathetic concept. Actually it is not even a concept, just mode of speech.

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