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	<title>Comments on: Reham Alhelsi -61 Years of On-Going Nakba: the Old Still Live through Us and the Young Never Forgot</title>
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		<title>By: Alan Snyder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Snyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 02:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All the memories of the past do not make a future. Your Muslim brothers of the world provide you with nothing but the guns and rockets they hope you will use to provoke the Israelis into obliterating you. There is only one people of the Middle East who have an interest in your future  - the Israelis. 

You cite memories of places that don&#039;t exist any more. You have lost generations. Continue on this course, it is your right. But history is against you. Soon, what is left of the West Bank will be the Middle Eastern equivalent of Texas and California and Arizona in the U.S. 

While the Jews were hoping against hope in the Warsaw ghetto, they continued to educate their children, study the law and medicine and the sciences. You have not used your occupation to similarly advance your children. If you had, and had persuaded your Islamic brothers to help you the way Israelis obtained the help and investment of their decimated coreligionists post-WW2, you could have had your own land of milk and honey. Your population density could have been controlled so that your territory would have been the Singapore of the Middle East. Your children who have flourished here in American schools, and gone on to be great doctors and scientists, could have done so in Palestine. They are bright, talented, energetic - and deserve better than to be wasted in conflict.

Meanwhile, you plead for those who&#039;ve left Palestine to come back...come back to what? To hatred? To fratricide? To be the target of Israeli response to rockets of provocation? 

Meanwhile, your Islamic neighbors make secret business with Israeli companies and educate their future leaders in Israeli universities. They contract with private Israeli security companies to train them how to keep out Islamic terrorists. And when Israel finally tires of the rockets, and disproportionately responds, those neighbors blame you as much or more than Israel.

Soon, all of what could have been Palestine will be a memory on a faded map on a refugee camp wall. What a waste.

It is not too late. A few Israelis and Palestinians are working across the divide to form companies that tap the brains of your smart young men and women, the wealth your leaders would sacrifice for nothing. Build more intellectual and economic bridges, and the walls will surely fall. Israelis - Jews - are above all, pragmatists. 

Israel is not blameless, for sure. But that&#039;s really irrelevant to the future of Palestine, if there is to be one. It will take a lot of work to win their trust - as distasteful as that idea might be. But the end of that effort will result in the survival of your people. The current path will not.

Peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the memories of the past do not make a future. Your Muslim brothers of the world provide you with nothing but the guns and rockets they hope you will use to provoke the Israelis into obliterating you. There is only one people of the Middle East who have an interest in your future  &#8211; the Israelis. </p>
<p>You cite memories of places that don&#039;t exist any more. You have lost generations. Continue on this course, it is your right. But history is against you. Soon, what is left of the West Bank will be the Middle Eastern equivalent of Texas and California and Arizona in the U.S. </p>
<p>While the Jews were hoping against hope in the Warsaw ghetto, they continued to educate their children, study the law and medicine and the sciences. You have not used your occupation to similarly advance your children. If you had, and had persuaded your Islamic brothers to help you the way Israelis obtained the help and investment of their decimated coreligionists post-WW2, you could have had your own land of milk and honey. Your population density could have been controlled so that your territory would have been the Singapore of the Middle East. Your children who have flourished here in American schools, and gone on to be great doctors and scientists, could have done so in Palestine. They are bright, talented, energetic &#8211; and deserve better than to be wasted in conflict.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, you plead for those who&#039;ve left Palestine to come back&#8230;come back to what? To hatred? To fratricide? To be the target of Israeli response to rockets of provocation? </p>
<p>Meanwhile, your Islamic neighbors make secret business with Israeli companies and educate their future leaders in Israeli universities. They contract with private Israeli security companies to train them how to keep out Islamic terrorists. And when Israel finally tires of the rockets, and disproportionately responds, those neighbors blame you as much or more than Israel.</p>
<p>Soon, all of what could have been Palestine will be a memory on a faded map on a refugee camp wall. What a waste.</p>
<p>It is not too late. A few Israelis and Palestinians are working across the divide to form companies that tap the brains of your smart young men and women, the wealth your leaders would sacrifice for nothing. Build more intellectual and economic bridges, and the walls will surely fall. Israelis &#8211; Jews &#8211; are above all, pragmatists. </p>
<p>Israel is not blameless, for sure. But that&#039;s really irrelevant to the future of Palestine, if there is to be one. It will take a lot of work to win their trust &#8211; as distasteful as that idea might be. But the end of that effort will result in the survival of your people. The current path will not.</p>
<p>Peace.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Grenville</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Grenville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 13:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, you do not forget. But the Israeli Jews - in fact most Jews - do. They have an extraordinarily bad memory.

I think it needs to be said. Jews were not the most important target numerically of the Nazi genocides.
Even if we take the figure of 6 million, which is in doubt even by the most reputable historians
of the Jewish tragedy such as Hiberg, it is less than 30% of the total. Over 12 million Slavs were killed 
by the Nazis in non-military ways, and at least 1 million Roma. Source R J Rummel: Democide. Have a
look at these two links: http://www.geocities.com/~Patrin/truth_and_memory.htm Interesting on Jewish exclusivism and the Nazi genocides. http://www.digitalsurvivors.com/archives/democidenazi.php On the 
figures for the Nazi genocides.

Colonization is more than colonization of a physical geographic space. It is accompanied by a colonization of the mind in the whole of what we call &quot;the West&quot;. In the case of the Nazi genocides, the mental space,
the topos, has been colonized by Jewish writers who, typically, are interested only in the suffering of the Jews. The word Holocaust, and even more, Shoah, removes the event from history and sacralises it. The purpose of the sacralisation, as in the Church, is to keep us in fear and subjection and to block rational enquiry. I would argue for a healthy Holocaust atheism to dispel the fog of the Holocaust religion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, you do not forget. But the Israeli Jews &#8211; in fact most Jews &#8211; do. They have an extraordinarily bad memory.</p>
<p>I think it needs to be said. Jews were not the most important target numerically of the Nazi genocides.<br />
Even if we take the figure of 6 million, which is in doubt even by the most reputable historians<br />
of the Jewish tragedy such as Hiberg, it is less than 30% of the total. Over 12 million Slavs were killed<br />
by the Nazis in non-military ways, and at least 1 million Roma. Source R J Rummel: Democide. Have a<br />
look at these two links: <a href="http://www.geocities.com/~Patrin/truth_and_memory.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.geocities.com/~Patrin/truth_and_memory.htm</a> Interesting on Jewish exclusivism and the Nazi genocides. <a href="http://www.digitalsurvivors.com/archives/democidenazi.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.digitalsurvivors.com/archives/democidenazi.php</a> On the<br />
figures for the Nazi genocides.</p>
<p>Colonization is more than colonization of a physical geographic space. It is accompanied by a colonization of the mind in the whole of what we call &#034;the West&#034;. In the case of the Nazi genocides, the mental space,<br />
the topos, has been colonized by Jewish writers who, typically, are interested only in the suffering of the Jews. The word Holocaust, and even more, Shoah, removes the event from history and sacralises it. The purpose of the sacralisation, as in the Church, is to keep us in fear and subjection and to block rational enquiry. I would argue for a healthy Holocaust atheism to dispel the fog of the Holocaust religion.</p>
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		<title>By: 61 Years of On-Going Nakba: the Old Still Live through Us and the Young Never Forgot (cultural theft by Israelis) &#171; Silver Lining</title>
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		<dc:creator>61 Years of On-Going Nakba: the Old Still Live through Us and the Young Never Forgot (cultural theft by Israelis) &#171; Silver Lining</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 19:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Silver Lining Food for thought    &#171; Nakba Day…&#8221;They Killed Anyone They&#160;Saw&#8221;    61 Years of On-Going Nakba: the Old Still Live through Us and the Young Never Forgot (cultural theft by&#160;Israelis) May 15, 2009   By Reham Alhelsi, Palestinian think tank [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Silver Lining Food for thought    &laquo; Nakba Day…&#034;They Killed Anyone They&nbsp;Saw&#034;    61 Years of On-Going Nakba: the Old Still Live through Us and the Young Never Forgot (cultural theft by&nbsp;Israelis) May 15, 2009   By Reham Alhelsi, Palestinian think tank [...]</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 11:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s quite true about the cultural theft. I have read that in New York, felafel are universally regarded as &quot;Jewish food&quot;. 
However, the best falafel I have ever eaten were some that I bought at an Egyptian place in North Bay, Ontario. Now, falafel is part of Egyptian cuisine no less than Palestinian, but the Egyptians don&#039;t call them falafel, they call them &lt;i&gt;ta&#039;miyah&lt;/i&gt;. This Egyptian restaurant in North Bay doesn&#039;t advertise its falafel as being Israeli, but it does advertise them as falafel. Does that count as cultural theft, do you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s quite true about the cultural theft. I have read that in New York, felafel are universally regarded as &#034;Jewish food&#034;.<br />
However, the best falafel I have ever eaten were some that I bought at an Egyptian place in North Bay, Ontario. Now, falafel is part of Egyptian cuisine no less than Palestinian, but the Egyptians don&#039;t call them falafel, they call them <i>ta&#039;miyah</i>. This Egyptian restaurant in North Bay doesn&#039;t advertise its falafel as being Israeli, but it does advertise them as falafel. Does that count as cultural theft, do you think?</p>
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		<title>By: 61 Years of On-Going Nakba &#8212; will to truth</title>
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