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	<title>Comments on: From Aggression to Victimhood: David Aaronovitch (or How the Mighty Fall)</title>
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		<title>By: pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 03:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello. I found this website while googling the strange creature you are discussing, Aaronovitch, and I will stop back as this Rizzo can write well, the comments are funny, and the Palestinians have gotten an exceedingly bad break. My only other comment is that the raging debate we all have as to whether Don Maclean or Roy Orbison had a better version of crying is by no means settled in my soul. I can totally see the Maclean point, but Roy.... Anyway, sorry for going off topic, I really do have a great admiration for Palestine. The bell tolls for all of us when such injustice occurs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello. I found this website while googling the strange creature you are discussing, Aaronovitch, and I will stop back as this Rizzo can write well, the comments are funny, and the Palestinians have gotten an exceedingly bad break. My only other comment is that the raging debate we all have as to whether Don Maclean or Roy Orbison had a better version of crying is by no means settled in my soul. I can totally see the Maclean point, but Roy&#8230;. Anyway, sorry for going off topic, I really do have a great admiration for Palestine. The bell tolls for all of us when such injustice occurs.</p>
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		<title>By: bozhidar</title>
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		<dc:creator>bozhidar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank my devil anytime i&#039;m called an antisemite! Why?  Because, i admire some qualities of the shemitic peoples which wld include canaanitic, phoenician, hebraic [israeli and judean], et al peoples.

so, i am definitely not antishemitic. Anytime a &#039;jew&#039;  wld call me antijudaist, antizionist i&#039;d feel proud.

and if a zionist [land robber with murder in mind, appears a far better term] wld pin a medal on me with label &quot;I am an antisemite&quot;, i&#039;d welcome that too.

but i&#039;d not be allowed in any  store. But i cld still wear it when i go to a &#039;jewish&#039;  business.
they too wld probably tell me to leave but that wld be OK.

fortunately for me i feel little or no pangs when i am labeled an &quot;antisemite&quot;.  The reason i do not feel anything when that label is used is because we gather knowledge only thru our five senses.

A label such as &quot;antisemite&quot; [or what one means when one says that] cannot be smelled, heard, touched, tasted, or seen; thus doesn&#039;t bring on an image.

Like the words &quot;milk&quot;, &quot;rock&quot;, &quot;my wife&quot;, et al.
When one utters these words, images crop up.
Such words are undefinable; there is no arguments about their meanings.

On the other hand, a label can be defined ad nauseam and forever. However, a label never evokes an image.

And that is why, clergy/pols use them while avoiding the words that cannot be further elucidated because they do engender an image; painful or joyous one in all their degrees.  

it is not reality that damages a warrior&#039;s mind. images of killings/maimings do that.
One does wrong nature wld surely punish one.

And zionists know this; thus the denial of all of their crimes; hoping the nature wld delay its vengeance until they die or even not be vengeful at all. tnx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank my devil anytime i&#039;m called an antisemite! Why?  Because, i admire some qualities of the shemitic peoples which wld include canaanitic, phoenician, hebraic [israeli and judean], et al peoples.</p>
<p>so, i am definitely not antishemitic. Anytime a &#039;jew&#039;  wld call me antijudaist, antizionist i&#039;d feel proud.</p>
<p>and if a zionist [land robber with murder in mind, appears a far better term] wld pin a medal on me with label &#034;I am an antisemite&#034;, i&#039;d welcome that too.</p>
<p>but i&#039;d not be allowed in any  store. But i cld still wear it when i go to a &#039;jewish&#039;  business.<br />
they too wld probably tell me to leave but that wld be OK.</p>
<p>fortunately for me i feel little or no pangs when i am labeled an &#034;antisemite&#034;.  The reason i do not feel anything when that label is used is because we gather knowledge only thru our five senses.</p>
<p>A label such as &#034;antisemite&#034; [or what one means when one says that] cannot be smelled, heard, touched, tasted, or seen; thus doesn&#039;t bring on an image.</p>
<p>Like the words &#034;milk&#034;, &#034;rock&#034;, &#034;my wife&#034;, et al.<br />
When one utters these words, images crop up.<br />
Such words are undefinable; there is no arguments about their meanings.</p>
<p>On the other hand, a label can be defined ad nauseam and forever. However, a label never evokes an image.</p>
<p>And that is why, clergy/pols use them while avoiding the words that cannot be further elucidated because they do engender an image; painful or joyous one in all their degrees.  </p>
<p>it is not reality that damages a warrior&#039;s mind. images of killings/maimings do that.<br />
One does wrong nature wld surely punish one.</p>
<p>And zionists know this; thus the denial of all of their crimes; hoping the nature wld delay its vengeance until they die or even not be vengeful at all. tnx</p>
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		<title>By: Gilad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gilad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 23:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-8220&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@amos zukerman&lt;/a&gt; - 

I go with your reading of J cry</description>
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<p>I go with your reading of J cry</p>
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		<title>By: amos zukerman</title>
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		<dc:creator>amos zukerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-8224&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Mary Rizzo&lt;/a&gt; - I don&#039;t give a f***k why he cried. this jew cries when he listens to w a m Lacrimoza watching  &quot;the FEEL&quot; getting shot in Bilin . sorry about the twist, its getting near Naqba Day, this is not the happiest time of the year for us in Palestine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='#comment-8224' rel="nofollow">@Mary Rizzo</a> &#8211; I don&#039;t give a f***k why he cried. this jew cries when he listens to w a m Lacrimoza watching  &#034;the FEEL&#034; getting shot in Bilin . sorry about the twist, its getting near Naqba Day, this is not the happiest time of the year for us in Palestine.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Rizzo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Rizzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-8220&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@amos zukerman&lt;/a&gt; - 
OH Amos my dear! Thank you for helping me to understand the subtleties of Jewish Crying. I can tell you are a crying connoisseur, and I like that! We should put it to music (using 60 ways to leave your lover) with the Crying Variations. 

but why do you think the Jewish Student was in tears? Maybe he doesn&#039;t like elves?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='#comment-8220' rel="nofollow">@amos zukerman</a> &#8211;<br />
OH Amos my dear! Thank you for helping me to understand the subtleties of Jewish Crying. I can tell you are a crying connoisseur, and I like that! We should put it to music (using 60 ways to leave your lover) with the Crying Variations. </p>
<p>but why do you think the Jewish Student was in tears? Maybe he doesn&#039;t like elves?</p>
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		<title>By: amos zukerman</title>
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		<dc:creator>amos zukerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-8214&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Mary Rizzo&lt;/a&gt; - My dear Shikse, you fall in the trap. you think there is one kind of jewish crying, fhoy you make me laugh. there is orthodox crying, they say they have been crying for the last 2000 years. {thats way they dress in black, not because they are trying to hide a lokshen belly}. there&#039;s shtetel crying, sometime confused with the former but  to the connoisseur totally distinct, from which we derive the iconic Aoy Vey. in modern time we have witnessed the evolution of a new hybrid, zionist crying. thats simple, lies, lies and more lies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='#comment-8214' rel="nofollow">@Mary Rizzo</a> &#8211; My dear Shikse, you fall in the trap. you think there is one kind of jewish crying, fhoy you make me laugh. there is orthodox crying, they say they have been crying for the last 2000 years. {thats way they dress in black, not because they are trying to hide a lokshen belly}. there&#039;s shtetel crying, sometime confused with the former but  to the connoisseur totally distinct, from which we derive the iconic Aoy Vey. in modern time we have witnessed the evolution of a new hybrid, zionist crying. thats simple, lies, lies and more lies.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Rizzo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Rizzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 15:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://cahlsjukejoint.blogspot.com/2008/05/best-songs-about-crying.html

THIS GUY DOES HIS RESEARCH!!!</description>
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<p>THIS GUY DOES HIS RESEARCH!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Rizzo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Rizzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 15:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-8210&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@amos zukerman&lt;/a&gt; - 
will you write the &quot;analysis of Jewish weeping&quot; for me Amos?! I think this will heighten our understanding and I for one need it! (please consider)

found this just now.. must be the soundtrack to the party... let me play with some titles in ( ...): 
Okay, let&#039;s try to get those tear jerkers out of the way...the songs with tears or crying or versions of those two words...know any ? 
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Tears Of a Clown ~ Smokey Robinson &amp; the Miracles  - (Tears of A Clown at Durban II)
96 Tears ~ Question Mark and the Mysterians  - (96 Tears in 61 years)
Crying In The Chapel ~ Elvis Presley  - (Crying in the Shtetl)
Lonely Teardrops ~ Jackie Wilson  
Baby Baby Don&#039;t Cry ~ Smokey Robinson  
Cry Me A River ~ Justin Timberlake  
The Tracks Of My Tears ~ Smokey Robinson &amp; The Miracles  
Crying--Roy Orbison  
Cry--Johnnie Ray  
When Doves Cry - Prince  - (When Hawk and Doves Cry)
Cry - Godley &amp; Creme  
letter Full Of Tears ~ Gladys Knight &amp; The Pips  
All My Tears - Emmylou Harris  
Tears On My Pillow - Little Anthony/Imperials  
96 Tears - ? and the Mysterians  
Crying in the Rain - Everly Brothers  
Crying - Don McClean (Blow&#039;s Roy Orbison&#039;s original out of the &#039;water&#039; ;o)  
Crying in the rain - whitesnake  
All Cried Out - Lisa Lisa  
It&#039;s my party and I&#039;ll cry if I want to  
Who&#039;s Crying Now - JOURNEY  
Tears In Heaven - Eric Clapton  
Tears on My Pillow ~ Little Anthony &amp; the Imperials  
No More Tears ~ Ozzy Osbourne  
As Tears Go By - Rolling Stones  
DON&#039;T CRY FOR ME  
Cry, Cry, Cry-Johnny Cash  
Don&#039;t Cry Out Loud - Melissa Manchester  
Teardrops on my guitar  
all cried out - allure &amp; 112</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='#comment-8210' rel="nofollow">@amos zukerman</a> &#8211;<br />
will you write the &#034;analysis of Jewish weeping&#034; for me Amos?! I think this will heighten our understanding and I for one need it! (please consider)</p>
<p>found this just now.. must be the soundtrack to the party&#8230; let me play with some titles in ( &#8230;):<br />
Okay, let&#039;s try to get those tear jerkers out of the way&#8230;the songs with tears or crying or versions of those two words&#8230;know any ?<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
Tears Of a Clown ~ Smokey Robinson &#038; the Miracles  &#8211; (Tears of A Clown at Durban II)<br />
96 Tears ~ Question Mark and the Mysterians  &#8211; (96 Tears in 61 years)<br />
Crying In The Chapel ~ Elvis Presley  &#8211; (Crying in the Shtetl)<br />
Lonely Teardrops ~ Jackie Wilson<br />
Baby Baby Don&#039;t Cry ~ Smokey Robinson<br />
Cry Me A River ~ Justin Timberlake<br />
The Tracks Of My Tears ~ Smokey Robinson &#038; The Miracles<br />
Crying&#8211;Roy Orbison<br />
Cry&#8211;Johnnie Ray<br />
When Doves Cry &#8211; Prince  &#8211; (When Hawk and Doves Cry)<br />
Cry &#8211; Godley &#038; Creme<br />
letter Full Of Tears ~ Gladys Knight &#038; The Pips<br />
All My Tears &#8211; Emmylou Harris<br />
Tears On My Pillow &#8211; Little Anthony/Imperials<br />
96 Tears &#8211; ? and the Mysterians<br />
Crying in the Rain &#8211; Everly Brothers<br />
Crying &#8211; Don McClean (Blow&#039;s Roy Orbison&#039;s original out of the &#039;water&#039; ;o)<br />
Crying in the rain &#8211; whitesnake<br />
All Cried Out &#8211; Lisa Lisa<br />
It&#039;s my party and I&#039;ll cry if I want to<br />
Who&#039;s Crying Now &#8211; JOURNEY<br />
Tears In Heaven &#8211; Eric Clapton<br />
Tears on My Pillow ~ Little Anthony &#038; the Imperials<br />
No More Tears ~ Ozzy Osbourne<br />
As Tears Go By &#8211; Rolling Stones<br />
DON&#039;T CRY FOR ME<br />
Cry, Cry, Cry-Johnny Cash<br />
Don&#039;t Cry Out Loud &#8211; Melissa Manchester<br />
Teardrops on my guitar<br />
all cried out &#8211; allure &#038; 112</p>
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		<title>By: amos zukerman</title>
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		<dc:creator>amos zukerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 14:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-8182&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Mary Rizzo&lt;/a&gt; - Feyerst of all of course it&#039;s a he, if it was a she, she would be &quot;sobbing bitterly, her shoulders quietly trembling&quot;. seykendly, jews have a god given right to cry whenever and wherever they wish, and they don&#039;t have to give a reason to no goys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='#comment-8182' rel="nofollow">@Mary Rizzo</a> &#8211; Feyerst of all of course it&#039;s a he, if it was a she, she would be &#034;sobbing bitterly, her shoulders quietly trembling&#034;. seykendly, jews have a god given right to cry whenever and wherever they wish, and they don&#039;t have to give a reason to no goys.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Rizzo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Rizzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 09:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Anne and Zarina! When you have material that is this comical, this easy to laugh at, it&#039;s a shame to not take advantage of that. 

I know, that come hither look is so creepy if not just outright hysterical! It would be more appropriate if he were writing a column for Maxim on the proper way to handle your sex slaves... That&#039;s the &quot;official&quot; pic for the Guardian, would you believe it? 

It is interesting how he seems to give all these Lord of the Rings type metaphores, and especially... can we think he really believes any of that about crowd dynamics? I can see lying to your public, but lying to yourself is going a bit far, but he did come clean at least that he got hissed out. It is his reasoning about it that is.. as we say here, climbing on mirrors. 

But we heard rumours in his &quot;camp&quot; for weeks that he &quot;won&quot; the debate. People were saying &quot;those audio clips didn&#039;t prove that he lost, au contraire!&quot; Well, he himself had to settle it once and for all, and he chose to do it where he could not be challenged. It merited analysis. That he admits he&#039;s arrogant is another plus. 

Those warm tents aren&#039;t what they used to be!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Anne and Zarina! When you have material that is this comical, this easy to laugh at, it&#039;s a shame to not take advantage of that. </p>
<p>I know, that come hither look is so creepy if not just outright hysterical! It would be more appropriate if he were writing a column for Maxim on the proper way to handle your sex slaves&#8230; That&#039;s the &#034;official&#034; pic for the Guardian, would you believe it? </p>
<p>It is interesting how he seems to give all these Lord of the Rings type metaphores, and especially&#8230; can we think he really believes any of that about crowd dynamics? I can see lying to your public, but lying to yourself is going a bit far, but he did come clean at least that he got hissed out. It is his reasoning about it that is.. as we say here, climbing on mirrors. </p>
<p>But we heard rumours in his &#034;camp&#034; for weeks that he &#034;won&#034; the debate. People were saying &#034;those audio clips didn&#039;t prove that he lost, au contraire!&#034; Well, he himself had to settle it once and for all, and he chose to do it where he could not be challenged. It merited analysis. That he admits he&#039;s arrogant is another plus. </p>
<p>Those warm tents aren&#039;t what they used to be!</p>
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		<title>By: AnneBeck</title>
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		<dc:creator>AnneBeck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 06:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mary, 
That was too funny!  I especially enjoyed the descriptions of all pics as applicable to Aaaronavitch.. though the &quot;come hither look&quot; really got my vote.  That one with the male(?) and female in full-&quot;dress&quot; was a bit too freaky for me, and the last was a bit obvious, but still made me laugh.

It&#039;s nice to read a &quot;light&quot; piece, especially when it pokes fun at someone as vile as &#039;that guy&#039;.  Ha.
Keep up the good work.

Still laughing,
Anne</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary,<br />
That was too funny!  I especially enjoyed the descriptions of all pics as applicable to Aaaronavitch.. though the &#034;come hither look&#034; really got my vote.  That one with the male(?) and female in full-&#034;dress&#034; was a bit too freaky for me, and the last was a bit obvious, but still made me laugh.</p>
<p>It&#039;s nice to read a &#034;light&#034; piece, especially when it pokes fun at someone as vile as &#039;that guy&#039;.  Ha.<br />
Keep up the good work.</p>
<p>Still laughing,<br />
Anne</p>
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		<title>By: Zarina Bhatia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zarina Bhatia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 23:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-8184&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Gilad&lt;/a&gt; - 

That&#039;s brilliant! Some Jewish from the audience saw sense as truly they are human beings. The poor defeated Jewish &#039;student&#039; who might be crying if at all, really amused me during the debate when he said, &quot;“How DARE you applaud! YOU, Sir, are an antisemite!” 

His article in the Jewish Chronicle is very amusing, too. The way he describes you as merely a musician... poor man! I thank Mary for such a splendid account of that debate at University of Oxford.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='#comment-8184' rel="nofollow">@Gilad</a> &#8211; </p>
<p>That&#039;s brilliant! Some Jewish from the audience saw sense as truly they are human beings. The poor defeated Jewish &#039;student&#039; who might be crying if at all, really amused me during the debate when he said, &#034;“How DARE you applaud! YOU, Sir, are an antisemite!” </p>
<p>His article in the Jewish Chronicle is very amusing, too. The way he describes you as merely a musician&#8230; poor man! I thank Mary for such a splendid account of that debate at University of Oxford.</p>
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		<title>By: Gilad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gilad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 23:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-8181&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Zarina Bhatia&lt;/a&gt; - 

Zarina my dear, sooner or later they will have to decide whether they want to be victims,  aggressors or just ordinary human beings. 

I stayed after the talk and I couldn&#039;t  see anyone crying.  Nick  Cohen was there to  to sell his new  book and he did  well,  As interesting  as it may sound,  I was there not too far from him talking to a few Jews who came to thank me for telling the truth and for standing up against clear evil...The Jews i met didn&#039;t cry, they were very happy actually. I will also  add that Aaronovitch wasn&#039;t there, he was very quick to disappear. 

Maybe, when talking about a crying Jewish student he was just referring to himself.  He had a good reason to sob that after noon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='#comment-8181' rel="nofollow">@Zarina Bhatia</a> &#8211; </p>
<p>Zarina my dear, sooner or later they will have to decide whether they want to be victims,  aggressors or just ordinary human beings. </p>
<p>I stayed after the talk and I couldn&#039;t  see anyone crying.  Nick  Cohen was there to  to sell his new  book and he did  well,  As interesting  as it may sound,  I was there not too far from him talking to a few Jews who came to thank me for telling the truth and for standing up against clear evil&#8230;The Jews i met didn&#039;t cry, they were very happy actually. I will also  add that Aaronovitch wasn&#039;t there, he was very quick to disappear. </p>
<p>Maybe, when talking about a crying Jewish student he was just referring to himself.  He had a good reason to sob that after noon.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Rizzo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Rizzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 22:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if the student was a male for female? We have given him the male normative, but if the student (Jewish) was a female, that changes things! Perhaps she was enthralled by that come hither look and did come hither, but when she got close, he turned out to be not so beauteous, and this bothered her. Or perhaps, he whispered, &quot;you&#039;re beauteous when you cry&quot; and she came up with the goods...

But, I wonder how he knew the student was indeed Jewish. It&#039;s not like there is any real physical sign to it or anything. There must have been some kosher control radars beamed out, or perhaps he thought only a Jew could agree with whatever his thesis was, which was to simply read out Atzmon&#039;s words in his maudlin way... 

I think Aaronovitch has to fess up. He told us about the email, now he should come clean on the Jewish Student.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if the student was a male for female? We have given him the male normative, but if the student (Jewish) was a female, that changes things! Perhaps she was enthralled by that come hither look and did come hither, but when she got close, he turned out to be not so beauteous, and this bothered her. Or perhaps, he whispered, &#034;you&#039;re beauteous when you cry&#034; and she came up with the goods&#8230;</p>
<p>But, I wonder how he knew the student was indeed Jewish. It&#039;s not like there is any real physical sign to it or anything. There must have been some kosher control radars beamed out, or perhaps he thought only a Jew could agree with whatever his thesis was, which was to simply read out Atzmon&#039;s words in his maudlin way&#8230; </p>
<p>I think Aaronovitch has to fess up. He told us about the email, now he should come clean on the Jewish Student.</p>
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		<title>By: Zarina Bhatia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zarina Bhatia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 22:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-8167&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Gilad&lt;/a&gt; -

Gilad,

Sometime back, last March I think, I attended a conference in Birmingham where there was a Jewish woman from the Synagogue and she began to cry to draw attention of all because she felt defeated! Crying as psychoanalysts tell us is a useful tool to express self-pity. I am not sure if that was why this particular student was crying!</description>
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<p>Gilad,</p>
<p>Sometime back, last March I think, I attended a conference in Birmingham where there was a Jewish woman from the Synagogue and she began to cry to draw attention of all because she felt defeated! Crying as psychoanalysts tell us is a useful tool to express self-pity. I am not sure if that was why this particular student was crying!</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Rizzo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Rizzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 17:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks Gilad, and thanks for the delightful idea. 

I actually did think about the Shooting and Crying thing, but since the person was indicated specifically as &quot;Jewish&quot;, then I couldn&#039;t extend that to the nationality, although I am sure that he probably has had practice in shooting off his mouth. 

Yet, why was he crying, and was he crying as a student or as a Jew? Did Aarono comfort him, or lead him to the wailing wall. So many mysteries here!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks Gilad, and thanks for the delightful idea. </p>
<p>I actually did think about the Shooting and Crying thing, but since the person was indicated specifically as &#034;Jewish&#034;, then I couldn&#039;t extend that to the nationality, although I am sure that he probably has had practice in shooting off his mouth. </p>
<p>Yet, why was he crying, and was he crying as a student or as a Jew? Did Aarono comfort him, or lead him to the wailing wall. So many mysteries here!</p>
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		<title>By: Gilad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gilad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 16:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mary

&quot;Aaronovitch fails to tell us why exactly the Jewish student was crying.&quot;

Crying is a very Jewish  thing.  If you google &quot;shooting and crying&quot; you will get 20,000 entries all related to Israel, and  &#039;good diaspora&#039; Jews... who happen to collectively cry during and after...


However, i thought that it would be interesting to run a blog where we can  all offer suggestions  why the Jewish student was crying.

Here are some examples

He cried because Israel failed to kill more civilians in Gaza

He cried because in spite of the Israeli Genocidal attempt, Hamas is stronger than ever. 

He cried because he realised that due to the rise of the  price of Carp fish,  no more Gefilthe fish  in the 
Jewish Studies&#039; vending machine

He cried because he acknowledged the grave fact that In spite of all the money Lord Levy raised for the Labour , bagels are yet to be given for  free in Hendon and beyond.  

He cried Because he realised that Aarono/Cohen failed to follow the  Shooting and Crying procedure once Iraq proved to be a disaster..

I am not very creative today, but i am sure that our readers can come with some enlightening ideas.

It is a very funny piece, well done.
Peace
G</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary</p>
<p>&#034;Aaronovitch fails to tell us why exactly the Jewish student was crying.&#034;</p>
<p>Crying is a very Jewish  thing.  If you google &#034;shooting and crying&#034; you will get 20,000 entries all related to Israel, and  &#039;good diaspora&#039; Jews&#8230; who happen to collectively cry during and after&#8230;</p>
<p>However, i thought that it would be interesting to run a blog where we can  all offer suggestions  why the Jewish student was crying.</p>
<p>Here are some examples</p>
<p>He cried because Israel failed to kill more civilians in Gaza</p>
<p>He cried because in spite of the Israeli Genocidal attempt, Hamas is stronger than ever. </p>
<p>He cried because he realised that due to the rise of the  price of Carp fish,  no more Gefilthe fish  in the<br />
Jewish Studies&#039; vending machine</p>
<p>He cried because he acknowledged the grave fact that In spite of all the money Lord Levy raised for the Labour , bagels are yet to be given for  free in Hendon and beyond.  </p>
<p>He cried Because he realised that Aarono/Cohen failed to follow the  Shooting and Crying procedure once Iraq proved to be a disaster..</p>
<p>I am not very creative today, but i am sure that our readers can come with some enlightening ideas.</p>
<p>It is a very funny piece, well done.<br />
Peace<br />
G</p>
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