Lieberman: Wishing for World War III?
By Guest Post • Apr 24th, 2009 at 11:13 • Category: Analysis, Counter-terrorism, No thanks!, Hasbara Deconstruction Site, Israel, Maps, Newswire, Palestine, Religion, Resistance, War, ZionismWRITTEN BY BRENDA HEARD We have already become accustomed to the brazen statements of Israeli Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman. And it is certainly no surprise that Israel considers the US to be firmly in its political pocket. So it is but a mild irritation to read Haaretz reporting that Lieberman, confident that “the Obama administration will put forth new peace initiatives only if Israel wants it to,” has stated publicly “Believe me, America accepts all our decisions.” (Lieberman: U.S. to accept any Israeli policy decision).
What is most interesting about Lieberman’s first comprehensive interview on foreign policy since taking office is his view of Russia. Lieberman, Haaretz points out, granted his first major interview not to an Israeli newspaper, but to Alexander Rosensaft, the Israel correspondent of one of the oldest Russian dailies, Moskovskiy Komosolets. Courting favour with the Slavic world power?
Russian immigrants are a dominant part of Israeli society. And Russia, according to the Jewish Virtual Library, is ranked number six in “Countries with Largest Jewish Populations.”* Countries ranked 2—5 (US, France, Canada, UK) are already reliable friends of Israel. On the other hand, Russia has in recent years demonstrated an independent character in its foreign relations.
Lieberman is looking for another ally. In his interview, he stated “Russia has a special influence in the Muslim world, and I consider it a strategic partner that should play a key role in the Middle East. I have argued for some time that Israel has insufficient appreciation for the ‘Kremlin factor’; I intend to mend this gap.”
Another openly brazen admission to manipulating others for the sake of Israel. When coupled with another assertion made by Lieberman, though, we begin to see what he means by “key role.” Lieberman proclaimed that Afghanistan and Pakistan are now considered jointly as the greatest strategic threat to Israel. Iran has been downgraded to second place threat, and Iraq falls in third place. Afghanistan and Pakistan “form a contiguous area of radicalism ruled in the spirit of Bin Laden,” says Lieberman, and “are a threat not only to Israel, but to the global order as a whole.”
Now take a good look at the regional map below. And think of President Obama's recently announced Afghanistan-Pakistan (AFPAK) Strategy (27/03/09)—two countries, one challenge, Al Qaida, more American troops, bringing Russia on board—and Lieberman’s cheerful offer of Israel’s role of bringing the US and Russia closer. With the US already having rendered Iraq ineffectual and vulnerable, the envisaged key role of Russia—big, big Russia—would be to assist in crushing Afghanistan and Pakistan as well . . . in order to maintain “global order,” of course.
The Iranian borders would then offer not obstacles, but exploitables. Iraqi, Afghani and Pakistani borders would be under the watchful eye of US/Israel and their would-be partner-Russia. That leaves just Turkey and Turkmenistan. Despite a few public tiffs, Turkey and Israel maintain a working relationship and military cooperation. And as troubled Turkmenistan is of little threat to anyone but itself, this new state of political power would enable Israel to more realistically envisage overwhelming its formerly declared arch nemesis. Once Israel and its partners were able to break Iran, they could, they presume, cut off the lifeblood to Hezbollah in Lebanon, thus killing two birds with one proverbial stone.
Is it over-reaching to imagine such map-sweeping military operations? Consider the size of Hamas. Look at the map again just to keep perspective fresh—right, Hamas is not even on the map. What was Lieberman’s proposal (13/01/09) for quieting this thorn in his side?
“We must continue to fight Hamas just like the United States did with the Japanese in World War II. Then, too, the occupation of the country was unnecessary.”
What, then, was the secret to US success? After having already killed over a million Japanese 1941—1945, the US was able to set aside its plans for a ground invasion and occupation of Japan because the Japanese surrendered. They relented because the US carried out atomic bomb attacks on the cities of Hiroshima (killing 140,000 Japanese) and three days later on Nagasaki (killing 80,000 more Japanese). Quicker and cheaper than an occupation, says the businessman. Lieberman apparently appreciates the logic. A chilling thought, considering that for all its finger-pointing accusations, Israel is the Middle Eastern power that has maintained nuclear weapons and has consistently demonstrated its willingness to use “disproportionate force.”
But Russia is no one’s fool. With a long, difficult history stretching back nearly 500 years, the Russians have proven their ability to endure. They haven’t succeeded by catering to someone else’s interests. By way of example, Russia may have recently purchased surveillance drones from Israel, but it is also still considering selling a strategic air-defence system to Iran, despite Israel’s clear objections to the deal. Said one Israeli official on the Russian rejection of conditions, “the Russians don't make promises of this kind.” The Russians will, however, stand their ground.
Even as the UN Durban Review Conference on Racism drew criticism from some (primarily from the Israeli camp), Russia accepted the position of vice-chair of the Preparatory Committee working on the declaration and the conference’s agenda. Russia maintained its high profile participation, regardless of the boycotting actions taken by others. As Andrei Podoplekin, political scientist at the leading Russian school Pomor State University, said, “This is a way for Russia to show that it can be an independent player. By agreeing to participate and serve as a moderator at an event boycotted by others, it proved that it could act independently, most importantly from the Western states.”
Where does Lebanon fit into all this? As always, there is a political and military tug-of-war. Four months ago, for instance, Moscow gave 10 MiG-29 fighter jets to Lebanon, free of charge, as assistance in building the Lebanon Army. The New York Times was quick to characterise the gesture as a “slap to the United States.” Not to be outdone then, the US has announced (14/04/09) that it “will provide the Lebanese Armed Forces (LAF) with twelve Raven unmanned aircraft in the coming months.” This comes with a training course, “funded by the U.S. Department of Defense (DOD), [and] is one part of the comprehensive, robust U.S. military assistance program to Lebanon.
It must be remembered, though, that the Obama administration has confirmed that the world financial crisis would not jeopardise its promise of $30 billion in military aid alone to Israel over the next 10 years. In 2007 the US had announced that it would continue military aid to Egypt at $13 billion from 2009 to 2018, and would increase military aid to Israel by 25% — $ 30 billion from 2009 to 2018. US Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs Nicholas Burns, who signed the memorandum of understanding governing the aid package, stated the aid would
“allow Israel to plan its defense expenditures in a way that's rational, in a way that takes into account its own appreciation of its situation in this region. So we look at this region and understand that a secure and strong Israel is in the interest of the US.”
As the Jerusalem Post paraphrases, this means that “there were no strings attached to the aid – no special annexes – and that it was not dependent on Israeli policy. Burns underlined that the aid was coming at a time when Iran ‘is resurgent,’ and was both seeking nuclear weapons and expanding its conventional power in the region. He said Iran and Syria were funding and arming terrorist organizations fomenting violence in every part of the Middle East, be it Hamas, Hizbullah or Shi'ite groups in Iraq.” Perhaps Burns, back in August 2007, didn’t think Afghanistan would hold out as long as it has, or that Pakistan would be a nice addition to the target list.
On 22 April 2009, Foreign Minister Lieberman cemented another “strategic
partner”: Egypt. Despite tensions due to Lieberman’s past offensive statements regarding Egypt, diplomatic relations seem to be improving between the formerly warring countries. Egyptian Intelligence Chief Omar Suleiman met with PM Netanyahu, President Peres and FM Lieberman. According to Israeli media, Lieberman “repeatedly stressed his appreciation of Egypt as a strategic partner.”
Meanwhile, relations between Egypt—Palestine and Egypt—Lebanon have been strained. Perhaps that is what a “strategic partner” is for: reinforcement of Israel’s game plan. Perhaps that is what Lieberman has in mind as he courts such a partnership with Russia. Stack up the friends on one side, the enemies on the other. But in the end, you don’t get a gang war. When you add billions of dollars worth of weaponry, you get world war.
The irony is, though, that amid all the massive global players in this drama, the sticking point for Israel is that it has never been able to defeat Lebanon. Israel has tried and tried to pound Lebanon into submission and has failed, no matter how many strategic partners it stacks up. Look at the map again. You need a magnifying glass to see the two of them. Yet the world seems intent on setting their agendas by what transpires there. A bit ridiculous, really.
Russia is not apt to fall for Lieberman’s lure. Again, Russia is no one’s fool. It has been less than a year since Russia resolutely quashed an aggression by Georgia—backed by US-Israel—to overtake South Ossetia. Israel may now be anxious to have Russia as a partner; however, it is highly unlikely that Russia will find itself needing Israel as a partner. And Russia does stand its ground.
Like Russia, Lebanon, for all its faults, knows how to stand its ground as well. Every Lebanese child knows the politics of being Lebanese. Every adult has lived through the wars and the global chicanery. Who else but Lebanon could manage to defeat Israel and then still rake in $1 billion total post-2006 conflict assistance and $410 million post-2006 in military aid from America, Israel’s favourite ally? The Lebanese might just be more clever than Lieberman is counting on.
Lebanon will not be intimidated. Syria will not be schmoozed. Russia cannot be reduced to what Lieberman has dubbed the ”Kremlin Factor,” as though he fancies himself a Jason Bourne. Lieberman stated that he intends to mend the gap between the Knesset and the Kremlin. But a gap is mended at both ends. In half a century, Russia has weathered wars far worse than those plotted by Lieberman. If Russia decides to adjust its alliances, it will do so not at the behest of tiny Tel Aviv, but when and if it chooses, on its own Russian terms.
By Brenda Heard
Founder Friends of Lebanon
*please note that it is Israel’s own insistence on distinguishing people by their faith, Jewish or otherwise, that necessitates the topic. FOL prefers to view people as individuals—not as representatives of a particular religion.
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I bet you half of the so called “Russian Immigrants” are of dubious “Jewish Origin” perhaps someone should do a DNA tests to see if these people are in any way close distant relatives to Moses, Solomon, David, or even Jacob. I doubt it very much. Marlon Brando was great in the movie the “Ugly American” and Avigdor Lieberman is even better in the real life reality show the “Ugly Jew”. Don’t worry; we too have our own Ugly Arab and Ugly Muslim.
But there is no way to determine Jewish origin! If Jesus was for instance from the lineage of David, why should Christians, who obstensibly follow Jesus not be considered as a group at the same level that Jews would be when many Jews are not even religious. There is no ethnic continuum, no way to determine anything, really!
I do know that when I was living in the USA, there was the period of the Soviet Union and the local Synagogue was having a campaign to bring Jews to Israel. I can't tell you the enormous banner that was on the grounds, one could see it from the elevated trains and everything, and this is why even those who would not know what the deal was, knew there was an important "need" to "save" "Soviet" "Jews" and send them to Israel. I went to the Rabbi and asked why they weren't campaigning for getting them to come to the USA, to Chicago even. He thought that was the stupidest question, "Oh! they CAN'T come here" and other lies. Obviously, later when they got all the Jews out to Israel who were willing to go, they ran out and needed to get others, so the Fake Jew was invented. They don't even learn the language, much less follow the religion.
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I find it extremely difficult to believe that Russia will form any type of alliance with Israel. Israel is an historic anachronism, a failed beggar state, a liability with no real return. One of the key components of 21st century politics will be competition between current "super powers" to curry favour with what in under 20 years will be 2.5 billion Muslims worldwide; 550 million Arabs (including 10-12 million Palestinians between the Jordan River and the Med) – all with a low average age – resources, markets, development . Israel will find itself a pariah state, unable to find new friends and being abandoned by current ones, including the US, which like all great powers, will have to act in its own best interests which are becoming increasingly at odds with Israel. Over one million Israeli Jews have emigrated in the past dozen years or so and immigration is less than a trickle. The hand writing is on the wall – Zionism and its creation Israel are in their death throes.
THEY ARE NOT ISRAEL,THOSE SONS OF HELL ARE KHAZARS,KHAZARS,KHAZARS THAT CONVERTED TO JUDAISM IN THE BLACK SEE KINGDOM OF KHAZARIA AROUND 760..BIBLE;REVELATION 2:9 I KNOW THY WORKS,AND TRIBULATION,AND POVERTY,(BUT THOU ART RICH)AND I KNOW THE BLASPHEMY OF THEM WHICH SAY THEY ARE JEWS,AND ARE NOT,BUT ARE THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN. REVELATION 3:9 BEHOLD,I WILL MAKE THEM OF THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN,WHICH SAY THEY ARE JEWS,AND ARE NOT,BUT DO LIE;BEHOLD,I WILL MAKE THEM TO COME AND WORSHIP BEFORE THY FEET,AND TO KNOW THAT I HAVE LOVED THEE….THOSE CRIMINALS WERE NEVER CHOSEN BY GOD,THEIR FATHER IS SATAN AND THE KHAZARS ARE HIS FOLLOWERS…READ THE THIRTEEN TRIBE,,THE JEWS OF KHAZARIA,,THE KUZARI AND THE SHAPING OF JEWISH IDENTITY,1167-1900,BY ADAM SHEAR.
JESUS WAS NOT A Jew
Benjamin H. Freedman, Jewish Historian – Researcher – Scholar.
From "Common Sense", p. 2-1-53 and 5-1-59
"Christians have been duped by the unholiest hoax in all history, by so-called Jews. This is considered their most effective weapon."
"This 'big lie' technique is brainwashing United States Christians into believing that Jesus Christ was "King of the Jews", in the sense that so-called 'Jews' today call themselves 'Jews'. This reference was first made in English translations of the Old and New Testaments, centuries before the so-called Jews highjacked the word 'Jew' in the 18th century A.D. to palm themselves off on the Christian world as having a kinship with Jesus Christ. This alleged kinship comes from the myth of their common ancestry with the so-called 'Jews' of the Holy Land in the Old Testament history, a fiction based on fable."
"American Christians little suspect they are being brainwashed twenty-four hours of every day over television and radio, by newspapers and magazines, by motion pictures and plays, by books, by political leaders in office and seeking office, by religious leaders in their pulpits and outside their churches, by leaders in the field of education inside and outside their curricular activities, and by all leaders in business, professions and finance, whose economic security demands that they curry the favor of so-called "Jews" of historic Khazar ancestry. Unsuspecting Christians are subjected to this barrage from sources they have little reason to suspect. Incontestable facts supply the unchallengeable proof of the historic accuracy that so-called "Jews" throughout the world today of eastern European origin are unquestionably the historic descendants of the Khazars, a pagan Turko-Finn ancient Mongoloid nation deep in the heart of Asia, according to history, who battled their way in bloody wars about the 1st century B.C. into eastern Europe where they set up their Khazar kingdom. For some mysterious reason the history of the Khazar kingdom is conspicuous by its absence from history courses in the schools and colleges.
"The historic existence of the Khazar kingdom of so-called "Jews", their rise and fall, the permanent disappearance of the Khazar kingdom as a nation from the map of Europe, and how King Bulan and the Khazar nation in about 740 A.D. became so-called "Jews" by conversion, were concealed from American Christians by censorship imposed by so-called "Jews", of historic Khazar ancestry, upon all U.S.A. media of mass communications directed by them. Then in 1945 this author gave nation-wide publicity to his many years intensive research into the "facts of life" concerning Khazars. The disclosures were sensational and very effective but apparently angered so-called "Jews" who have continued to vent their spleen upon this author since then solely for that reason. Since 1946 they have conducted a vicious smear campaign against him, seeking thus to further conceal these facts, for obvious reasons. What have they to fear from the truth?
"In an original 1903 edition of the Jewish Encyclopedia in New York's Public Library, and in the Library of Congress, Volume IV, pages 1 to 5 inclusive, appears a most comprehensive history of the Khazars. Also in the New York Public Library are 327 books by the world's greatest historians and other sources of reference, in addition to the Jewish Encyclopedia, dealing with Khazar history, and written between the 3rd A.D. and 20th centuries by contemporaries of the Khazars and by modern historians on that subject."
Jesus was a 'Judean', not a Jew.
During His lifetime, no persons were described as "Jews" anywhere. That fact is supported by theology, history and science. When Jesus was in Judea, it was not the "homeland" of the ancestors of those who today style themselves "Jews". Their ancestors never set a foot in Judea. They existed at that time in Asia, their "homeland", and were known as Khazars. In none of the manuscripts of the original Old or New Testament was Jesus described or referred to as a "Jew". The term originated in the late eighteenth century as an abbreviation of the term Judean and refers to a resident of Judea without regard to race or religion, just as the term "Texan" signifies a person living in Texas.
In spite of the powerful propaganda effort of the so-called "Jews", they have been unable to prove in recorded history that there is one record, prior to that period, of a race religion or nationality, referred to as "Jew". The religious sect in Judea, in the time of Jesus, to which self-styled "Jews" today refer to as "Jews", were known as "Pharisees". "Judaism" today and "Pharisaism" in the time of Jesus are the same.
Jesus abhorred and denounced "Pharisaism"; hence the words, "Woe unto you Scribes and Pharisees, Hypocrites, Ye Serpents, Ye Generation of Vipers".
Who was the First Jew?
John Standring
We know that Saul was the first king of Israel and that John was the first man called Baptist, but who was the first Jew? Neither Adam, Seth or Noah are called Jew. Nor were Abraham, Isaac or Jacob. Moses was not called a Jew and neither were Saul, David or Solomon called Jew. In fact you will not find the word Jew in the first eleven books of the Bible. The first time Jews are mentioned in the Bible, is in II Kings 16:6 (and then only in translations revised in the eighteenth century) where we find Israel was at war with the Jews and drave the Jews from Elath. Isn't it interesting that we can read over five hundred pages of the Bible before we find a Jew anywhere, yet those who call themselves Jew today claim the first five books of the bible and call it their Torah. Do you not find it rather strange that those who claim to have written the first five books of the Bible and call themselves Jew, can't find the word Jew written anywhere in the book they call their own bible, and claim to have written? Jesus Christ tells John in Revelation 2:9 "I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews and are not, but are the SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN". We know that God changed the name of Abram to Abraham in Genesis 17:5, and that He changed the name of Jacob to Israel in Genesis 32:28, but nowhere in the Bible do we find where God changed the name of Israel to Jew! There is therefore no authority by which those who say they are Jews can claim to be Israel!
By the time of Jesus the word Edom or Edomite had been translated by Greek and Latin into Ioudaios and Iudaeus meaning a Judean or person living in Judea. The original King James version of the Bible, 1611, translated Idumaean-Judean into Iewes. It wasn't until the revised editions of the King James Bible, that the word Jew appeared. The word Jew does not mean Israel or Israelite! We must conclude therefore that the first "Jews" were Canaanite-Edomite-Hittite. It is certain, according to the Bible, that Jews are not Israel. jesusjew.htm
Ex-Italy Pres – 9-11 Was
CIA/Mossad Operation
By the Staff of American Free Press
4-15-9
Former Italian President Francesco Cossiga, who revealed the existence of Operation Gladio, has told Italy’s oldest and most widely read newspaper that the 9-11 terrorist attacks were run by the CIA and Mossad, and that this was common knowledge among global intelligence agencies. In what translates awkwardly into English, Cossiga told the newspaper Corriere della Sera:
“All the (intelligence services) of America and Europe know well that the disastrous attack has been planned and realized from the Mossad, with the aid of the Zionist world in order to put under accusation the Arabic countries and in order to induce the western powers to take part in Iraq and Afghanistan.”
Cossiga was elected president of the Italian Senate in July 1983 before winning a landslide election to become president of the country in 1985, and he remained until 1992.
Cossiga’s tendency to be outspoken upset the Italian political establishment, and he was forced to resign after revealing the existence of, and his part in setting up, Operation Gladio. This was a rogue intelligence network under NATO auspices that carried out bombings across Europe in the 1960s, 1970s and ’80s. Gladio’s specialty was to carry out what they termed “false flag” operations-terror attacks that were blamed on their domestic and geopolitical opposition.
In March 2001, Gladio agent Vincenzo Vinciguerra stated, in sworn testimony, “You had to attack civilians, the people, women, children, innocent people, unknown people far removed from any political game. The reason was quite simple: to force the public to turn to the state to ask for greater security.”
Cossiga first expressed his doubts about 9-11 in 2001, and is quoted by 9-11 researcher Webster Tarpley saying “The mastermind of the attack must have been a sophisticated mind, provided with ample means not only to recruit fanatic kamikazes, but also highly specialized personnel. I add one thing: it could not be accomplished without infiltrations in the radar and flight security personnel.”
Coming from a widely respected former head of state, Cossiga’s assertion that the 9-11 attacks were an inside job and that this is common knowledge among global intelligence agencies is illuminating. It is one more eye-opening confirmation that has not been mentioned by America’s propaganda machine in print or on TV. Nevertheless, because of his experience and status in the world, Cossiga cannot be discounted as a crackpot.
http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/9-11_solved118.html
Nicolae
With due respect, if you you really believe that "the 9-11 terrorist attacks were run by the CIA and Mossad," I've got a couple of bridges for sale.
http/11://www.lexiline.com/lexiline/lexi000.htm
Enough thermite has been found in the WTC rubble, we know Israel and Bush were tyhe powers who carried out 9/11, and jump off your own bridge pal. Treason against America is not a joke.
To get back on topic – Given the history of jewish/zionist activity in russia since the revolution and their role in the massacres and repressions and atrocities of stalin and their role in the 60+ year tyranny of the ussr against its own peoples and their role in the financial rape of the ussr and the trouble putin and other russians had in ridding russia of the jewish/zionist oligarchs and their influence, I think liebermann has an uphill struggle with convincing russia they can be friends. Although we must remember that friendship is not what zionism is about, rather influence, or rather, control and ownership. and they will never stop trying, this way, that way ANY way.
To go back off topic – 911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB. David said -
"With due respect, if you you really believe that "the 9-11 terrorist attacks were run by the CIA and Mossad," I've got a couple of bridges for sale."
David, if you still believe the bull that a few muslim knifemen overwhelmed the US S.A.C and the trillion dollar strategies in place for decades for just this eventuality, and that the known-to-be-hijacked planes were allowed to remain for over an hour in the air instead of the more usual, and regular, 6 minutes interception by SAC (a weekly event) and that a military exercise covering just this scenario that was being run at exactly the same time was a pure coincidence and that the 3 (three) steel-framed buildings fell down into their own footprints at near free-fall speed (a unique event inhistory if it happened once, let alone 3 times on te same day) and that the military grade Thermite residue scientifically proven to be found at the 911 site got there by accident and, and, and …
- Well, then it doesn't surprise me that you've got a couple of bridges for sale. You're either a gullible fool, or a desperate troll.
at present panhuman development, ethnicity means a lot to individuals of one ethnos and sharing the language,lore,religion, customs, etc. being important in clinging together.
however, 'jews' is not an ethnos. Being 'jewish' means just sharing a religion [cult, really] or having ancestral ties to judaism, khazaria, and e. europe.
most of the ashk'c voelken had not ever spokem hebrew. Just recently, some began to learn hebrew and changing their slavo-germanic names to hebrew.
as business people in americas, they never go under the names like shlomo, moshe, ahaaron, shmuel, et al for obvious reasons. 'jewish' business people are ashamed of being recognized as shemitic; and especiallly becuase they hate shemites or know/feel they are not even a bit shemitic. tnx
@bozh –
the name thing really deserves some deep analysis and I hope to find one day a good article about it., maybe you could write one? It's interesting what you say about the selection of what name to use, and I have often been amused by how names are considered by others. One of my sisters married a man with a very marvelous surname that, when combined with her first name, sounded like a stage name. She was in the news-entertainment field herself and was asked to change it because "it sounded too artsy for the type of product they did". She reverted back to her maiden name which was then considered too "ethnic" and was asked to pick a "neutral surname".
One of my college mates changed his name when he went into Zionist overdrive.. He had a very NICE original name, well, it was his and it was ok, and picked something so … horrible… but that only an Israeli would pick… A few years later when we ended up working in the same office, I would ONLY refer to him by his real name, causing no end of ire, and another reason why I would not give in! This is a sensitive subject for some, but as they say, Nomen Omen (name is destiny).
@David –
David et al.
My friends, you live in a fantasy land – so be it. I've long since learned to not argue with 'true believers," whether "Born Again Christians," Zionist zealots or those who subscribe to the ludicrous view that 9/11 was an "inside job."
As long as witless xtians along with their counterparts in America who so wholeheartedly support Israhell and allow thses zionist extremists to control our government, Israhell will get whatever it wants….even world war III.
Let it be said that if there is another world war,let Lieberman be the first victim.
note the LIE in Lieberman's name.