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		<title>By: Noah Hubbell</title>
		<link>http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/03/29/shame-on-us/#comment-10191</link>
		<dc:creator>Noah Hubbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 22:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sympathetic toward Palestinians but would be more so if many didn&#039;t support the killing of innocent Jews. Israel has committed heinous war crimes but the blame the survivors of the holocaust for abusing human rights is ignorant oversimplification. &#039;Evil and Satanic?&#039; Well that&#039;s just a boldfaced lie. I mean, you can argue that the government is evil, but I&#039;m confident that Satan-worship is not practiced widely throughout Israel-thats awfully close to blood libel, friend. Its so sad to think about how this could have been over years and years ago after Israel was ruthlessly attacked Yom Kippur (the Jewish day for ATONEMENT) as well as the subsequent violation of the ceasefire by Egypt. Israel then made concession after concession, relinquishing land to Palestinians and Egyptians in return for temporary peace. Eventually the two-state solution, the only solution in my opinion, was proposed by Israel and rejected by Arafat! Did the whole world forget this part of history???
Look, I cannot and do not want to ignore the fact that Israel has done terrible, terrible things recently. But writers like you must remember a few things: the Israeli government is not representative of the world&#039;s Jewish population (or the holocaust survivors),  Israel has a right to defend themselves against groups who aim to kill Israelis (as long as they do so legally, which they haven&#039;t been recently), and, please, don&#039;t even try to push this crap that Palestinians are innocent and Jews are the aggressors in this conflict. Here&#039;s a reality check: 90% of the people in either region, of either religion, are innocent for the most part. But it was England that decided where Israel would go, and then it was the rest of the Middle-East that started the violence by attempting to wipe out Israel. It was wrong for England to place Israel where people were already living, but here&#039;s my question to you Mr. Amayreh, if the Palestinians suddenly had all the power in the Israel-Palestine relationship, would you be OK with the Palestinians displacing all the Jews? Is that, like the displacement of the Palestinians, a crime against humanity, or do people only suffer when they are like you?
I really hope that you decide to post this message because I really believe in my heart that its the truth. I&#039;m glad to be the target of Palestinian rage because even when its unjustified, its understandable. Please contact me with your disagreements, agreements, questions, obscenity-laced tirades at nhubbell@oxy.edu because I love hearing new perspectives.

How many people in the world are really evil? Don&#039;t 99% of us just want whats best for ourselves and our family? And the rest of the world if there&#039;s time....

P.S. Its ironic that you can delete any comment with an opposing viewpoint because it contains &#039;Zionist propaganda,&#039; and Anti-Semetic propaganda is not discouraged at all, but whatever...

Thanks for your time</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sympathetic toward Palestinians but would be more so if many didn&#039;t support the killing of innocent Jews. Israel has committed heinous war crimes but the blame the survivors of the holocaust for abusing human rights is ignorant oversimplification. &#039;Evil and Satanic?&#039; Well that&#039;s just a boldfaced lie. I mean, you can argue that the government is evil, but I&#039;m confident that Satan-worship is not practiced widely throughout Israel-thats awfully close to blood libel, friend. Its so sad to think about how this could have been over years and years ago after Israel was ruthlessly attacked Yom Kippur (the Jewish day for ATONEMENT) as well as the subsequent violation of the ceasefire by Egypt. Israel then made concession after concession, relinquishing land to Palestinians and Egyptians in return for temporary peace. Eventually the two-state solution, the only solution in my opinion, was proposed by Israel and rejected by Arafat! Did the whole world forget this part of history???<br />
Look, I cannot and do not want to ignore the fact that Israel has done terrible, terrible things recently. But writers like you must remember a few things: the Israeli government is not representative of the world&#039;s Jewish population (or the holocaust survivors),  Israel has a right to defend themselves against groups who aim to kill Israelis (as long as they do so legally, which they haven&#039;t been recently), and, please, don&#039;t even try to push this crap that Palestinians are innocent and Jews are the aggressors in this conflict. Here&#039;s a reality check: 90% of the people in either region, of either religion, are innocent for the most part. But it was England that decided where Israel would go, and then it was the rest of the Middle-East that started the violence by attempting to wipe out Israel. It was wrong for England to place Israel where people were already living, but here&#039;s my question to you Mr. Amayreh, if the Palestinians suddenly had all the power in the Israel-Palestine relationship, would you be OK with the Palestinians displacing all the Jews? Is that, like the displacement of the Palestinians, a crime against humanity, or do people only suffer when they are like you?<br />
I really hope that you decide to post this message because I really believe in my heart that its the truth. I&#039;m glad to be the target of Palestinian rage because even when its unjustified, its understandable. Please contact me with your disagreements, agreements, questions, obscenity-laced tirades at <a href="mailto:nhubbell@oxy.edu">nhubbell@oxy.edu</a> because I love hearing new perspectives.</p>
<p>How many people in the world are really evil? Don&#039;t 99% of us just want whats best for ourselves and our family? And the rest of the world if there&#039;s time&#8230;.</p>
<p>P.S. Its ironic that you can delete any comment with an opposing viewpoint because it contains &#039;Zionist propaganda,&#039; and Anti-Semetic propaganda is not discouraged at all, but whatever&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks for your time</p>
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		<title>By: Barrett</title>
		<link>http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/03/29/shame-on-us/#comment-9508</link>
		<dc:creator>Barrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 03:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-7440&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Phil&lt;/a&gt; - 
Phil:  You are an idiot.  Genocide is genocide.  Cruelty to humans is not to be tolerated.  For you to support Israel&#039;s actions with your silly little comments, is testament to your ignorance.  I might suggest you turn off the NBC evening news and start reading.  There is a whole world of truth and pain out there.  Your television is meant to comfort you.  I suggest you sell it or give it away.

Good luck man . . . you&#039;re going to need it.

Barrett
Nashville, TN</description>
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Phil:  You are an idiot.  Genocide is genocide.  Cruelty to humans is not to be tolerated.  For you to support Israel&#039;s actions with your silly little comments, is testament to your ignorance.  I might suggest you turn off the NBC evening news and start reading.  There is a whole world of truth and pain out there.  Your television is meant to comfort you.  I suggest you sell it or give it away.</p>
<p>Good luck man . . . you&#039;re going to need it.</p>
<p>Barrett<br />
Nashville, TN</p>
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		<title>By: AnneBeck</title>
		<link>http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/03/29/shame-on-us/#comment-7900</link>
		<dc:creator>AnneBeck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 23:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-7576&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Sami Jamil Jadallah&lt;/a&gt; - 
Sami, if Jews in Israel are anything like Jews in the U.S., they aren&#039;t really looking for converts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='#comment-7576' rel="nofollow">@Sami Jamil Jadallah</a> &#8211;<br />
Sami, if Jews in Israel are anything like Jews in the U.S., they aren&#039;t really looking for converts.</p>
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		<title>By: AnneBeck</title>
		<link>http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/03/29/shame-on-us/#comment-7899</link>
		<dc:creator>AnneBeck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 23:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-7571&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Barbara&lt;/a&gt; - 
Barbara:
The seniors of Jerusalem are innocent here?  Are you kidding?  Just because most are too old to do anything TODAY, it does not absolve them of past indescretions.  It&#039;s not like this Palestinian-Holocaust began this year.  It&#039;s been going on since these now-seniors were young men and women.  WHO do you think started it?
Yeeesh.</description>
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Barbara:<br />
The seniors of Jerusalem are innocent here?  Are you kidding?  Just because most are too old to do anything TODAY, it does not absolve them of past indescretions.  It&#039;s not like this Palestinian-Holocaust began this year.  It&#039;s been going on since these now-seniors were young men and women.  WHO do you think started it?<br />
Yeeesh.</p>
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		<title>By: AnneBeck</title>
		<link>http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/03/29/shame-on-us/#comment-7898</link>
		<dc:creator>AnneBeck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 23:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, when we, the world, said, &quot;Never Again&quot;, we did not mean for it to pertain to Jews only.  Certainly, the holocaust and our sadness for what Jews endured should not give license to Zionists to now ( and for decades) perpetrate their own holocaust against anyone.
I appreciate your take on this, as I have seen much written by Americans (pro and anti-Zion), and I was wondering what one who IS there would say.  
The children should NOT have been fooled in this way;  nor should the truth have been hidden from their parents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, when we, the world, said, &#034;Never Again&#034;, we did not mean for it to pertain to Jews only.  Certainly, the holocaust and our sadness for what Jews endured should not give license to Zionists to now ( and for decades) perpetrate their own holocaust against anyone.<br />
I appreciate your take on this, as I have seen much written by Americans (pro and anti-Zion), and I was wondering what one who IS there would say.<br />
The children should NOT have been fooled in this way;  nor should the truth have been hidden from their parents.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael W.</title>
		<link>http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/03/29/shame-on-us/#comment-7587</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 14:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jews don&#039;t proselytize. There has been instances in which Palestinians claimed that their ancestors were Jews and wanted permission to move into Israel proper. I don&#039;t know what happened to them. 

A Palestinian has a better chance getting into Israel if he/she said that he/she was gay and was seeking asylum from persecution from his/her fellow Palestinians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jews don&#039;t proselytize. There has been instances in which Palestinians claimed that their ancestors were Jews and wanted permission to move into Israel proper. I don&#039;t know what happened to them. </p>
<p>A Palestinian has a better chance getting into Israel if he/she said that he/she was gay and was seeking asylum from persecution from his/her fellow Palestinians.</p>
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		<title>By: Palestinian musician expelled from West Bank</title>
		<link>http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/03/29/shame-on-us/#comment-7585</link>
		<dc:creator>Palestinian musician expelled from West Bank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 03:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] her orchestra to play for Holocaust survivors at an Israeli old age home. The performance was strongly criticised by Palestinians as a hostile political act. Now the orchestra has been disbanded, its [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] her orchestra to play for Holocaust survivors at an Israeli old age home. The performance was strongly criticised by Palestinians as a hostile political act. Now the orchestra has been disbanded, its [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Rizzo</title>
		<link>http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/03/29/shame-on-us/#comment-7577</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Rizzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 21:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-7576&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Sami Jamil Jadallah&lt;/a&gt; - 
Sami! I can always count on you to say the most challenging and iconoclastic things! I really wonder what the thoughts on such an idea are..
Back when I was on the MePeace board, there was someone who was an Israeli promoting some kind of thing where everyone in &quot;the Promised Land&quot; WAS (had been) jewish and that the Palestinians had converted to Islam from Judaism according to the site that was linked. It was VERY creepy, but if I can find it again somehow, (when they ban me, I can&#039;t even vist the site, as well as my interventions being deleted.) it was a way to consolidate Jewish power, because of course, you couldn&#039;t get millions or maybe even a few thousand Palestinians to convert. The point was, to consolidate Judaism as the &quot;natural&quot; faith of the area... very weird. I criticised the thing very vocally, but no one else did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='#comment-7576' rel="nofollow">@Sami Jamil Jadallah</a> &#8211;<br />
Sami! I can always count on you to say the most challenging and iconoclastic things! I really wonder what the thoughts on such an idea are..<br />
Back when I was on the MePeace board, there was someone who was an Israeli promoting some kind of thing where everyone in &#034;the Promised Land&#034; WAS (had been) jewish and that the Palestinians had converted to Islam from Judaism according to the site that was linked. It was VERY creepy, but if I can find it again somehow, (when they ban me, I can&#039;t even vist the site, as well as my interventions being deleted.) it was a way to consolidate Jewish power, because of course, you couldn&#039;t get millions or maybe even a few thousand Palestinians to convert. The point was, to consolidate Judaism as the &#034;natural&#034; faith of the area&#8230; very weird. I criticised the thing very vocally, but no one else did.</p>
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		<title>By: Sami Jamil Jadallah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sami Jamil Jadallah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 20:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just an idea that may work. Why not a massive conversion to Judaism to quality for the Promise Land and the Right of Return. It is less painful since most if not all Palestinians males are circumcised and I am sure our fellow brothers the Christians will be willing to go through the process. I am sure we will be more Jewish than the 1.5 million Russian Jews including Lieberman could ever be. Our return will be on the cheap and does not require some rich American Jew or some Evangelical Zionists like Reverend Hagee to fleece his poor congregation to raise money to transport us back home like they transported the millions of Russians of dubious Jewish origin to Palestine. I think most of us will pay our way back. I am sure some Rabbi somewhere will not mind to manage this conversion for a fee. If the Russians can do it why can’t we? I am also sure the American Congress will bless this plan since it will no longer be subject to a Zionist Jewish blackmail. It is just an idea!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just an idea that may work. Why not a massive conversion to Judaism to quality for the Promise Land and the Right of Return. It is less painful since most if not all Palestinians males are circumcised and I am sure our fellow brothers the Christians will be willing to go through the process. I am sure we will be more Jewish than the 1.5 million Russian Jews including Lieberman could ever be. Our return will be on the cheap and does not require some rich American Jew or some Evangelical Zionists like Reverend Hagee to fleece his poor congregation to raise money to transport us back home like they transported the millions of Russians of dubious Jewish origin to Palestine. I think most of us will pay our way back. I am sure some Rabbi somewhere will not mind to manage this conversion for a fee. If the Russians can do it why can’t we? I am also sure the American Congress will bless this plan since it will no longer be subject to a Zionist Jewish blackmail. It is just an idea!</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara</title>
		<link>http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/03/29/shame-on-us/#comment-7571</link>
		<dc:creator>Barbara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 19:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Khalid, I just did Parts 2 and 3 to this article SHAME ON US and I do not think Palestinians will like it.   I must be missing something here but I was, and still am, quite upset that once again the children lose.  Here are my final thoughts on the matter.  I would be MOST appreciative if you can tell me where I am wrong in this.  Maybe I am missing something that I feel so differently here.  But this is my sincere observation and if you can point it out to me, I would be most grateful.  This is what I wrote:

MY $.02 WORTH.

NO MATTER HOW EVERYONE ELSE FEELS, PALESTINIAN PARENTS, POLITICIANS, ETC ETC. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE MAIN CHARACTERS IN THIS STORY ARE THE CHILDREN OF PALESTINE AND THE SENIORS OF JERUSALEM. IN BOTH CASES THESE GROUPS WERE INNOCENT REGARDING THE WHOLE SCENARIO WHICH IN MY MIND HAS BEEN BLOWN WAY OUT OF PROPORTION.

THE CHILDREN DID NOT LOOK SCARRED OR SCARED, AND THE SENIORS SEEMED TO BE TOUCHED. HEAVEN KNOWS BOTH SETS OF PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT TRIALS TO FACE. IN BOTH CASES A LITTLE JOY GOES A LONG WAY.

AS DAUGHTER OF A MUCH OLDER WOMAN, I GO TO GREAT ENDS TO BRING HER PEACE AND PROTECT HER FROM THE EVILS OF TODAY&#039;S WORLD. IT IS WORTH EVERY BIT OF MY EFFORTS. SO I CAN RELATE TO THESE ELDERS, REGARDLESS OF THEIR PASTS. THEY DID NOT EVEN KNOW WHO THESE CHILDREN WERE!

AS FOR THE CHILDREN, THEY SEEMED TO LEARN SOMETHING AND ALSO TAKE AWAY A FEW VALUABLE LESSONS. THEY LEARNED ABOUT AN EVENT THEY SEEM TO NOT HAVE BEEN AWARE OF AND THAT OLD PEOPLE ARE OLD PEOPLE ALL AROUND THE WORLD. TO ME THAT IS A HUMANITARIAN LESSON. THESE LESSONS COULD HAVE BEEN POSITIVE IF HANDLED PROPERLY.

INSTEAD, THEIR MUSIC TEACHER HAS BEEN BANNED AND THEIR MUSIC HAS BEEN TAKEN FROM THEM. THIS IS JUST NOT RIGHT THAT THEY BE COLLECTIVELY PUNISHED BECAUSE SOME UNTHINKING ADULTS, WHATEVER THEIR MOTIVES MIGHT HAVE BEEN, INVOLVED THEM IN THIS EVENT.

FOR ONCE, I SAY SHAME TO THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE TAKEN AWAY WHAT GIVES THESE CHILDREN JOY. THAT IS THE SHAME! THEY HAVE LOST SOMETHING THAT ELEVATED THEIR SPIRITS  AND GIFTED THEM WITH THE BEAUTY OF THE MUSICAL SPHERE, SO NECESSARY CONSIDERING THEIR DAY TO DAY LIVES. SHAME ON YOU!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Khalid, I just did Parts 2 and 3 to this article SHAME ON US and I do not think Palestinians will like it.   I must be missing something here but I was, and still am, quite upset that once again the children lose.  Here are my final thoughts on the matter.  I would be MOST appreciative if you can tell me where I am wrong in this.  Maybe I am missing something that I feel so differently here.  But this is my sincere observation and if you can point it out to me, I would be most grateful.  This is what I wrote:</p>
<p>MY $.02 WORTH.</p>
<p>NO MATTER HOW EVERYONE ELSE FEELS, PALESTINIAN PARENTS, POLITICIANS, ETC ETC. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE MAIN CHARACTERS IN THIS STORY ARE THE CHILDREN OF PALESTINE AND THE SENIORS OF JERUSALEM. IN BOTH CASES THESE GROUPS WERE INNOCENT REGARDING THE WHOLE SCENARIO WHICH IN MY MIND HAS BEEN BLOWN WAY OUT OF PROPORTION.</p>
<p>THE CHILDREN DID NOT LOOK SCARRED OR SCARED, AND THE SENIORS SEEMED TO BE TOUCHED. HEAVEN KNOWS BOTH SETS OF PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT TRIALS TO FACE. IN BOTH CASES A LITTLE JOY GOES A LONG WAY.</p>
<p>AS DAUGHTER OF A MUCH OLDER WOMAN, I GO TO GREAT ENDS TO BRING HER PEACE AND PROTECT HER FROM THE EVILS OF TODAY&#039;S WORLD. IT IS WORTH EVERY BIT OF MY EFFORTS. SO I CAN RELATE TO THESE ELDERS, REGARDLESS OF THEIR PASTS. THEY DID NOT EVEN KNOW WHO THESE CHILDREN WERE!</p>
<p>AS FOR THE CHILDREN, THEY SEEMED TO LEARN SOMETHING AND ALSO TAKE AWAY A FEW VALUABLE LESSONS. THEY LEARNED ABOUT AN EVENT THEY SEEM TO NOT HAVE BEEN AWARE OF AND THAT OLD PEOPLE ARE OLD PEOPLE ALL AROUND THE WORLD. TO ME THAT IS A HUMANITARIAN LESSON. THESE LESSONS COULD HAVE BEEN POSITIVE IF HANDLED PROPERLY.</p>
<p>INSTEAD, THEIR MUSIC TEACHER HAS BEEN BANNED AND THEIR MUSIC HAS BEEN TAKEN FROM THEM. THIS IS JUST NOT RIGHT THAT THEY BE COLLECTIVELY PUNISHED BECAUSE SOME UNTHINKING ADULTS, WHATEVER THEIR MOTIVES MIGHT HAVE BEEN, INVOLVED THEM IN THIS EVENT.</p>
<p>FOR ONCE, I SAY SHAME TO THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE TAKEN AWAY WHAT GIVES THESE CHILDREN JOY. THAT IS THE SHAME! THEY HAVE LOST SOMETHING THAT ELEVATED THEIR SPIRITS  AND GIFTED THEM WITH THE BEAUTY OF THE MUSICAL SPHERE, SO NECESSARY CONSIDERING THEIR DAY TO DAY LIVES. SHAME ON YOU!</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Rizzo</title>
		<link>http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/03/29/shame-on-us/#comment-7563</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Rizzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 16:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-7560&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@sophie&lt;/a&gt; - 

there ya go, how many times is that. Hard to say good bye isn&#039;t it.? Why not say it and mean it. Go on, self-destruct. *If* you had any credibility, it&#039;s been flushed down the toilet now.  Interesting, point out your inconsistencies and I have to close my cute lil mouth. You&#039;re the one who told me to get lost off a site I run. Try to at least keep score there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='#comment-7560' rel="nofollow">@sophie</a> &#8211; </p>
<p>there ya go, how many times is that. Hard to say good bye isn&#039;t it.? Why not say it and mean it. Go on, self-destruct. *If* you had any credibility, it&#039;s been flushed down the toilet now.  Interesting, point out your inconsistencies and I have to close my cute lil mouth. You&#039;re the one who told me to get lost off a site I run. Try to at least keep score there.</p>
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		<title>By: sophie</title>
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		<dc:creator>sophie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 15:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-7546&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Mary Rizzo&lt;/a&gt; - 

[oh, let&#039;s hope this time she means it! ]

Listen lil sweetie pie: the more i read what you write, the more darlin you become in my eyes. you sho&#039; sweet lil one! you spect  me to say nothin as your open your little cute lil mouth and speak bout me?  How you think that works, babe? you spect me to say nothin as you continue to keep chirping bout me?  no babe it don&#039;t work that way.  you closes that little cute mouth of yours when it comes to me, and then - as g0d is my witness, i shall remain mum! 

luv ya!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='#comment-7546' rel="nofollow">@Mary Rizzo</a> &#8211; </p>
<p>[oh, let's hope this time she means it! ]</p>
<p>Listen lil sweetie pie: the more i read what you write, the more darlin you become in my eyes. you sho&#039; sweet lil one! you spect  me to say nothin as your open your little cute lil mouth and speak bout me?  How you think that works, babe? you spect me to say nothin as you continue to keep chirping bout me?  no babe it don&#039;t work that way.  you closes that little cute mouth of yours when it comes to me, and then &#8211; as g0d is my witness, i shall remain mum! </p>
<p>luv ya!</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Rizzo</title>
		<link>http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/03/29/shame-on-us/#comment-7546</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Rizzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 06:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-7532&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Originally Posted By sophie&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-7529&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Mary Rizzo&lt;/a&gt; - 


http://ziomania.com/images/goodbye.jpg&lt;/blockquote&gt;

oh, let&#039;s hope this time she means it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a href='#comment-7532' rel="nofollow">Originally Posted By sophie</a><br /><a href='#comment-7529' rel="nofollow">@Mary Rizzo</a> &#8211; </p>
<p><a href="http://ziomania.com/images/goodbye.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://ziomania.com/images/goodbye.jpg</a></p></blockquote>
<p>oh, let&#039;s hope this time she means it!</p>
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		<title>By: sophie</title>
		<link>http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/03/29/shame-on-us/#comment-7532</link>
		<dc:creator>sophie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 23:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-7529&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Mary Rizzo&lt;/a&gt; - 


http://ziomania.com/images/goodbye.jpg</description>
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		<title>By: Mary Rizzo</title>
		<link>http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/03/29/shame-on-us/#comment-7531</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Rizzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 22:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>more time wasting fun.. but this contradiction just stands right out: 

&quot;Let it be on record that you wrote to me first and your very first email to me had the ‘f’ word in it.&quot;

then

&quot;being 100% sure that I never sent you such email or any email.&quot;

---you admit you wrote me, then later you are 100% sure you never sent me any email. Not pretty sure, but 100%

one of the many inconsistencies. how&#039;s life on the border? Now, get lost, please. I have better things to do, truly. You have more venom to write, have fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>more time wasting fun.. but this contradiction just stands right out: </p>
<p>&#034;Let it be on record that you wrote to me first and your very first email to me had the ‘f’ word in it.&#034;</p>
<p>then</p>
<p>&#034;being 100% sure that I never sent you such email or any email.&#034;</p>
<p>&#8212;you admit you wrote me, then later you are 100% sure you never sent me any email. Not pretty sure, but 100%</p>
<p>one of the many inconsistencies. how&#039;s life on the border? Now, get lost, please. I have better things to do, truly. You have more venom to write, have fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Rizzo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Rizzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 22:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jaco amore mio! I will take TWO asprins please!</description>
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		<title>By: Mary Rizzo</title>
		<link>http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/03/29/shame-on-us/#comment-7529</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Rizzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 22:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazing Sophie, you keep telling us how busy you are and how you won&#039;t post here, telling me to even get lost off of my own site, and there you are... million word stuff to wade through. Consistency and dignity are not your forte. 

Try to get your little grip. I don&#039;t like you, I don&#039;t care about you, I hate your tone and I think you are a crypto Zionist. You boss people around and you think you have the right to it. Do it if you must, but in your own territory. Here you are not welcome to come and abuse the host. Didn&#039;t you read the &quot;personal attacks will not be approved&quot;? 

I told you in the email back after you got so snotty with me (my initial one to you was not rude, and a pox upon who forwarded your sick tripe to me, knowing I would defend Steve and probably knowing you would turn into a screamer, but without comments, one is forced to write to her majesty, and the F word was something like &quot;so fucking what&quot;... If that word bugs you, too bad. It&#039;s your entire attitude that I don&#039;t dig in the slightest). Back to the point, In the email I mentioned the Jewish Maggot thing,  (very much your style, now that I see your blog a little better) that it was in the Pepa blog. I told you about it, because the similarities were a bit striking. I asked my friend who was hanging out here at the time to look up what he could find and he found it. If you have your old emails LOOK for it, instead of making me go back to an old server I don&#039;t use anymore to find a comment among over 20 thousand comments so I can put your IP number up so that you can have a real legit reason to attack me. I REALLY don&#039;t have the time for this game. You keep acting as if it was in an email, no, it was in the blog post, I told you that then and now. If you still are not clear, IT WAS IN A BLOG COMMENT on one of the old blogs. And yeah, sometimes real &quot;nice people&quot; like you get creepy and weird and mean, don&#039;t they: i mean, look at yourself now. Not too attractive. I don&#039;t know why people act so odd. I don&#039;t want to psychoanalyse you like you think you can do with me. I don&#039;t know you and thank god I never will!! 

So, Khalid knows where you are coming from? Why don&#039;t you find out where he&#039;s coming from. Somoud post. 

I don&#039;t care one iota about your judgment of me. I have you sussed out and the mere fact that you are fixated on this issue,  where you know the score but can rant up a storm, (maybe you forgot your little trips into my blog, or maybe someone was using your computer) when a more interesting issue is that you attack from total safety of anonymity, just what the best zionists do, goes really unaddressed. Take your meds. 

As to Steve, do you know the reason he went to Palestine? Do you know his relations there? Do you know anything, or just assume you do? Because he happens to share his life with Palestinian people, that is his family and unlike you, they see only love and support in him, because you are just too idiotic to see anything but black and white. 

Now, don&#039;t go attacking Amos here! I will ban you if you try it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing Sophie, you keep telling us how busy you are and how you won&#039;t post here, telling me to even get lost off of my own site, and there you are&#8230; million word stuff to wade through. Consistency and dignity are not your forte. </p>
<p>Try to get your little grip. I don&#039;t like you, I don&#039;t care about you, I hate your tone and I think you are a crypto Zionist. You boss people around and you think you have the right to it. Do it if you must, but in your own territory. Here you are not welcome to come and abuse the host. Didn&#039;t you read the &#034;personal attacks will not be approved&#034;? </p>
<p>I told you in the email back after you got so snotty with me (my initial one to you was not rude, and a pox upon who forwarded your sick tripe to me, knowing I would defend Steve and probably knowing you would turn into a screamer, but without comments, one is forced to write to her majesty, and the F word was something like &#034;so fucking what&#034;&#8230; If that word bugs you, too bad. It&#039;s your entire attitude that I don&#039;t dig in the slightest). Back to the point, In the email I mentioned the Jewish Maggot thing,  (very much your style, now that I see your blog a little better) that it was in the Pepa blog. I told you about it, because the similarities were a bit striking. I asked my friend who was hanging out here at the time to look up what he could find and he found it. If you have your old emails LOOK for it, instead of making me go back to an old server I don&#039;t use anymore to find a comment among over 20 thousand comments so I can put your IP number up so that you can have a real legit reason to attack me. I REALLY don&#039;t have the time for this game. You keep acting as if it was in an email, no, it was in the blog post, I told you that then and now. If you still are not clear, IT WAS IN A BLOG COMMENT on one of the old blogs. And yeah, sometimes real &#034;nice people&#034; like you get creepy and weird and mean, don&#039;t they: i mean, look at yourself now. Not too attractive. I don&#039;t know why people act so odd. I don&#039;t want to psychoanalyse you like you think you can do with me. I don&#039;t know you and thank god I never will!! </p>
<p>So, Khalid knows where you are coming from? Why don&#039;t you find out where he&#039;s coming from. Somoud post. </p>
<p>I don&#039;t care one iota about your judgment of me. I have you sussed out and the mere fact that you are fixated on this issue,  where you know the score but can rant up a storm, (maybe you forgot your little trips into my blog, or maybe someone was using your computer) when a more interesting issue is that you attack from total safety of anonymity, just what the best zionists do, goes really unaddressed. Take your meds. </p>
<p>As to Steve, do you know the reason he went to Palestine? Do you know his relations there? Do you know anything, or just assume you do? Because he happens to share his life with Palestinian people, that is his family and unlike you, they see only love and support in him, because you are just too idiotic to see anything but black and white. </p>
<p>Now, don&#039;t go attacking Amos here! I will ban you if you try it.</p>
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		<title>By: sophie</title>
		<link>http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/03/29/shame-on-us/#comment-7528</link>
		<dc:creator>sophie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 22:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mary:  I am not sure that I feel good about using abusive language towards you in the last post.  Frankly besides being delusional, I really believe that you are a decent person. But interesting that you never responded to my inquiry as to who gave permission to your Khazaric Ashkenazi Steve to occupy Arab land. The same inquiry applies to every goddamned Euro Ashkenazi Jew that is living in Palestine at the expense of people of color.

Mary: you need to be very careful before accusing anyone of anything that you are not sure of.  You and I do not know each other; therefore if you had a well-functioning brain it should not have led you towards me [a totally unknown person to you] as the one who wrote to you that ugly email. Who would want to send an ugly email to you? It would have to be someone who has some resentment towards you.  I have none, if for no other reason, because I don’t know you.  You refused to indicate the name of the email address where it came from. I made a list of the conversations we hade about the IP address and what gets revealed is that you started off by saying that you had a record of the IP address and finally when I challenged you to put it up on the screen, you wiggled around with all kinds of excuses and finally you said you had lost it. People had been hanged over false testimony.  It does not serve you well to make up such deliberate and ugly lies.  I did challenge you to put up the IP address on the screen being 100% sure that I never sent you such email or any email. Take a look: 

o	Mary Rizzo on March 31st, 2009 at 10:05:=&gt; the IP numbers of the abuse where you call me a Jewish Maggot on my old blog are all there for the record. 

o	sophie on March 31st, 2009 at 20:06:=&gt; As far as IP addresses, I have had he same IP address for over two years. Since you seem to know about IP addresses, then you should have noticed that I have one and the same IP address. If you have an IP address of someone who referred to you as a &#039;Jewish maggot&#039; then you need to put that IP address up! Put it up! 

o	Mary Rizzo on April 1st, 2009 at 6:43:=&gt;Oh, and yes the IP numbers matched (i.e. to my IP address)

o	sophie on April 1st, 2009 at 15:56: Mary wrote: [Oh, and yes the IP numbers matched] … You mean the IP address of those who called you &#039;Jewish maggot&#039; matched to be mine? Insane! Outrageous! …What is preventing you from posting the IP address as I requested? 

o	Mary Rizzo on April 1st, 2009 at 16:41:=&gt;Yes, the IP of the person calling me that was the same that you (have) … Actually, a computer expert friend of mine did, and it traced to the server that hosts your blog. I asked if he was sure and he was. So, that is enough for me. I unfortunately have also trashed all my old emails with the latest computer hacking event, so I don&#039;t have the IPs to put up anymore .
...................

Incredible!  Marry, if you could resort to such ugly fabrication about someone you don’t know like me, what are you capable of doing to those with whom you might have severe and ugly conflicts? You must be very careful when fabricating information about anyone, even your enemies. It does not serve you well. Look at this example of how you were exposed for such a malicious lie.  Btw: It may not be too late for you to get in touch with your hosting service and let them help you figure out this IP address business; chances are that what you claimed you lost may still be residing on their server. 

On the plus side: You do in fact do a lot of good work for the Palestinian cause.  Keep it focused there.  Do not imagine enemies where there are none. I am not your enemy, simply because I do not wish you ill will. 
In the past, whatever conflict occurred between you and I were all started by you; you wrote to me first to defend the White Ashkenazi colonizing settler on Arab soil who goes by [desertpeace], where it was none of your business to do so; you started it this time around because I had posted a message in regards to Khalid Amayreh. Khalid knows exactly where I am coming from and he had for many years now. So it was not your business to speak for Khalid. Chances of I desiring to antagonize Khalid are nil. Learn to mind your own business and I think life may then treat you better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary:  I am not sure that I feel good about using abusive language towards you in the last post.  Frankly besides being delusional, I really believe that you are a decent person. But interesting that you never responded to my inquiry as to who gave permission to your Khazaric Ashkenazi Steve to occupy Arab land. The same inquiry applies to every goddamned Euro Ashkenazi Jew that is living in Palestine at the expense of people of color.</p>
<p>Mary: you need to be very careful before accusing anyone of anything that you are not sure of.  You and I do not know each other; therefore if you had a well-functioning brain it should not have led you towards me [a totally unknown person to you] as the one who wrote to you that ugly email. Who would want to send an ugly email to you? It would have to be someone who has some resentment towards you.  I have none, if for no other reason, because I don’t know you.  You refused to indicate the name of the email address where it came from. I made a list of the conversations we hade about the IP address and what gets revealed is that you started off by saying that you had a record of the IP address and finally when I challenged you to put it up on the screen, you wiggled around with all kinds of excuses and finally you said you had lost it. People had been hanged over false testimony.  It does not serve you well to make up such deliberate and ugly lies.  I did challenge you to put up the IP address on the screen being 100% sure that I never sent you such email or any email. Take a look: </p>
<p>o	Mary Rizzo on March 31st, 2009 at 10:05:=&gt; the IP numbers of the abuse where you call me a Jewish Maggot on my old blog are all there for the record. </p>
<p>o	sophie on March 31st, 2009 at 20:06:=&gt; As far as IP addresses, I have had he same IP address for over two years. Since you seem to know about IP addresses, then you should have noticed that I have one and the same IP address. If you have an IP address of someone who referred to you as a &#039;Jewish maggot&#039; then you need to put that IP address up! Put it up! </p>
<p>o	Mary Rizzo on April 1st, 2009 at 6:43:=&gt;Oh, and yes the IP numbers matched (i.e. to my IP address)</p>
<p>o	sophie on April 1st, 2009 at 15:56: Mary wrote: [Oh, and yes the IP numbers matched] … You mean the IP address of those who called you &#039;Jewish maggot&#039; matched to be mine? Insane! Outrageous! …What is preventing you from posting the IP address as I requested? </p>
<p>o	Mary Rizzo on April 1st, 2009 at 16:41:=&gt;Yes, the IP of the person calling me that was the same that you (have) … Actually, a computer expert friend of mine did, and it traced to the server that hosts your blog. I asked if he was sure and he was. So, that is enough for me. I unfortunately have also trashed all my old emails with the latest computer hacking event, so I don&#039;t have the IPs to put up anymore .<br />
&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>Incredible!  Marry, if you could resort to such ugly fabrication about someone you don’t know like me, what are you capable of doing to those with whom you might have severe and ugly conflicts? You must be very careful when fabricating information about anyone, even your enemies. It does not serve you well. Look at this example of how you were exposed for such a malicious lie.  Btw: It may not be too late for you to get in touch with your hosting service and let them help you figure out this IP address business; chances are that what you claimed you lost may still be residing on their server. </p>
<p>On the plus side: You do in fact do a lot of good work for the Palestinian cause.  Keep it focused there.  Do not imagine enemies where there are none. I am not your enemy, simply because I do not wish you ill will.<br />
In the past, whatever conflict occurred between you and I were all started by you; you wrote to me first to defend the White Ashkenazi colonizing settler on Arab soil who goes by [desertpeace], where it was none of your business to do so; you started it this time around because I had posted a message in regards to Khalid Amayreh. Khalid knows exactly where I am coming from and he had for many years now. So it was not your business to speak for Khalid. Chances of I desiring to antagonize Khalid are nil. Learn to mind your own business and I think life may then treat you better.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Khalid Amayreh - Zionists: We hate you because you are evil, not because you are Jewish &#124; Palestine Think Tank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 21:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 20:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not know what Sophia is trying to accomplish, but she is making a big idiot of her self ! Mary, She comes to your site and tells you to Get Lost. I did not know what is her site but for sure will make a note so I can avoid it ! I find it peculiar, that she starts with how she is so fine respectfull and talk nice and then gets to a level that she so insulting, all of her things were, but the crescendo is notice. I do not know if it make me sick or make me mad. I hate when sites get ugly, and this would be good place for talk about what is happened with Jenin Orchestra, but when I see someone talk to you this way, I can not help it. It make me angry. The more i read, the more angry I got. I get the email digest each day so I do not read site much, but Walid and Lele who read it always, they told me someone is bother you in meanness, here I am to tell you my solidarity feeling. No one touch my friend ! Sophia, Get Lost !

If there is anyone who is fights Zionist colonizing, that is you. The people like me who know you years and years see you kind of example. I need to find out a thing, I ask you and that is that. But when someone like Sophia mistake a Zionist for an Israel person who support Palestinians like is Desert Peace, this show she has little understand of things. If she wants all Jews out of Israel, she will never to get that, so we have thank the heaven that exist Desert Peace with his strong support of Palestine people. You did right defending him when you did and you do right defending him now. I know you and you will defend your friends up to your last if you believe they are right. He prove always to not be Zionist. One look at his blog you know what he stand up for. And true, fact that he is popular with Palestine people even if he is Israeli say something. 

Now I take a nice aspirin, my head hurts, I pass you one too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not know what Sophia is trying to accomplish, but she is making a big idiot of her self ! Mary, She comes to your site and tells you to Get Lost. I did not know what is her site but for sure will make a note so I can avoid it ! I find it peculiar, that she starts with how she is so fine respectfull and talk nice and then gets to a level that she so insulting, all of her things were, but the crescendo is notice. I do not know if it make me sick or make me mad. I hate when sites get ugly, and this would be good place for talk about what is happened with Jenin Orchestra, but when I see someone talk to you this way, I can not help it. It make me angry. The more i read, the more angry I got. I get the email digest each day so I do not read site much, but Walid and Lele who read it always, they told me someone is bother you in meanness, here I am to tell you my solidarity feeling. No one touch my friend ! Sophia, Get Lost !</p>
<p>If there is anyone who is fights Zionist colonizing, that is you. The people like me who know you years and years see you kind of example. I need to find out a thing, I ask you and that is that. But when someone like Sophia mistake a Zionist for an Israel person who support Palestinians like is Desert Peace, this show she has little understand of things. If she wants all Jews out of Israel, she will never to get that, so we have thank the heaven that exist Desert Peace with his strong support of Palestine people. You did right defending him when you did and you do right defending him now. I know you and you will defend your friends up to your last if you believe they are right. He prove always to not be Zionist. One look at his blog you know what he stand up for. And true, fact that he is popular with Palestine people even if he is Israeli say something. </p>
<p>Now I take a nice aspirin, my head hurts, I pass you one too?</p>
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