Comments on: If Gazans want compassion from Israelis, they should grow a tail http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/02/20/if-gazans-want-compassion-from-israelis-they-should-grow-a-tail/ Free Minds for a Free Palestine Sun, 21 Mar 2010 19:34:06 +0300 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Mary Rizzo http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/02/20/if-gazans-want-compassion-from-israelis-they-should-grow-a-tail/#comment-6850 Mary Rizzo Wed, 04 Mar 2009 23:10:24 +0000 http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/02/20/if-gazans-want-compassion-from-israelis-they-should-grow-a-tail/#comment-6850 <a href='#comment-6840' rel="nofollow">@Karin Kloosterman</a> - I hate injustice, I hate occupation, I hate imperialism and I hate supremacism. This is why I hate Israel. It is not based on justice but rather on ethnic supremacy and it does all it can in a practical way to see that it is carried out. I don't consider the Hamas a terrorist group, and if you look at the photos in the stream on the top, if these were Israeli victims, the world would be up in arms. But they are not, they are those Israel has said are their enemies, and thus it is acceptable for them to slaughter them in this way. It is Israel the terrorist state. @Karin Kloosterman –
I hate injustice, I hate occupation, I hate imperialism and I hate supremacism. This is why I hate Israel. It is not based on justice but rather on ethnic supremacy and it does all it can in a practical way to see that it is carried out.

I don't consider the Hamas a terrorist group, and if you look at the photos in the stream on the top, if these were Israeli victims, the world would be up in arms. But they are not, they are those Israel has said are their enemies, and thus it is acceptable for them to slaughter them in this way. It is Israel the terrorist state.

]]> By: Karin Kloosterman http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/02/20/if-gazans-want-compassion-from-israelis-they-should-grow-a-tail/#comment-6840 Karin Kloosterman Wed, 04 Mar 2009 14:30:56 +0000 http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/02/20/if-gazans-want-compassion-from-israelis-they-should-grow-a-tail/#comment-6840 <a href='#comment-6620' rel="nofollow">@Mary Rizzo</a> - That's right. But there comes a point when the Israelis can no longer afford to treat Gazan terrorists as equals. Hence the counter-attack. Sparing animals from suffering should not be ignored even when there is human suffering. Israelis are concerned about innocents suffering too. They have given donations to help them, even mothers who had Hamas bullets fired at their heads. The big question was -- would Hamas let them take the donations. I wonder what has happened to you in your life that has made you hate the Israeli nation so much? Care to share? @Mary Rizzo –

That's right. But there comes a point when the Israelis can no longer afford to treat Gazan terrorists as equals. Hence the counter-attack. Sparing animals from suffering should not be ignored even when there is human suffering. Israelis are concerned about innocents suffering too. They have given donations to help them, even mothers who had Hamas bullets fired at their heads. The big question was — would Hamas let them take the donations.

I wonder what has happened to you in your life that has made you hate the Israeli nation so much? Care to share?

]]> By: Karin Kloosterman http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/02/20/if-gazans-want-compassion-from-israelis-they-should-grow-a-tail/#comment-6839 Karin Kloosterman Wed, 04 Mar 2009 14:26:57 +0000 http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/02/20/if-gazans-want-compassion-from-israelis-they-should-grow-a-tail/#comment-6839 <a href='#comment-6635' rel="nofollow">@Shaukat</a> - There is no connection with the subjects written about in the Talmud, and the proscriptions given to them. Even if similar. If you knew the Torah deeply, you would know that. There is a mitzvah to treat the convert, widow and orphan with compassion. That doesn't mean the orphan, widow or convert are in the same boat. - Karin @Shaukat –

There is no connection with the subjects written about in the Talmud, and the proscriptions given to them. Even if similar. If you knew the Torah deeply, you would know that.

There is a mitzvah to treat the convert, widow and orphan with compassion. That doesn't mean the orphan, widow or convert are in the same boat.

- Karin

]]> By: Mary Rizzo http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/02/20/if-gazans-want-compassion-from-israelis-they-should-grow-a-tail/#comment-6714 Mary Rizzo Sat, 28 Feb 2009 10:38:41 +0000 http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/02/20/if-gazans-want-compassion-from-israelis-they-should-grow-a-tail/#comment-6714 <a href='#comment-6711' rel="nofollow">@kitsia</a> - Thanks Kitsia, nice to meet you too! I published the article you refer to (written by Vittorio Arrigoni who... 3 days ago was shot at by an Israeli sniper!) I will put the video up later today. You are right, people are far more concerned about animals (pets... not all animals, that is) than they are about other human beings. This is one of life's great mysteries. I recall when there was that fake story about a kitten in a glass jar or something (perhaps you recall). My friends who can't stand my politics but who still love me for other reasons were sending me shocked emails about this with "Mary, this is so horrible! What can be done?!" I wanted to ask them first of all to quit eating meat if they were really serious about it all, but then thought, they know where I stand on this, so what good would it do to say it now, when they are all up in arms about a photomontage. But my point still does stand, and you understood it well... while we are indeed hoping that the animals survive, there are issues that Israel uses to take advantage of this: they do not allow Gazans to attend to their own needs and therefore, what crumbs they throw at them have to come in the guise of charity, to show the world how caring and good Israelis really are if they just leave politics out of it. My point to them would be, take off the F&*ç%*£ blockade and you will see that life can in some way carry on. Don't expect to kill them for years and then for an hour show mercy and compassion and then sigh saying you didn't expect any thanks for it... It just disgusts me. To refuse certain kinds of "charity" is an act of resistance. We know also that Lions do NOT eat oats... what are these people even on about?! They are waiting for the skeletal looking lions so they can film them and say how horrible Palestinians are to deny food to caged animals... if that is not simply an image of every Palestinian in Gaza and how they are caged in and starved to death by Israelis, I do not know what on earth is. but Israelis remain blinded to pain of others. @kitsia –
Thanks Kitsia, nice to meet you too!
I published the article you refer to (written by Vittorio Arrigoni who… 3 days ago was shot at by an Israeli sniper!) I will put the video up later today.
You are right, people are far more concerned about animals (pets… not all animals, that is) than they are about other human beings. This is one of life's great mysteries. I recall when there was that fake story about a kitten in a glass jar or something (perhaps you recall). My friends who can't stand my politics but who still love me for other reasons were sending me shocked emails about this with "Mary, this is so horrible! What can be done?!" I wanted to ask them first of all to quit eating meat if they were really serious about it all, but then thought, they know where I stand on this, so what good would it do to say it now, when they are all up in arms about a photomontage.

But my point still does stand, and you understood it well… while we are indeed hoping that the animals survive, there are issues that Israel uses to take advantage of this: they do not allow Gazans to attend to their own needs and therefore, what crumbs they throw at them have to come in the guise of charity, to show the world how caring and good Israelis really are if they just leave politics out of it. My point to them would be, take off the F&*ç%*£ blockade and you will see that life can in some way carry on. Don't expect to kill them for years and then for an hour show mercy and compassion and then sigh saying you didn't expect any thanks for it…

It just disgusts me. To refuse certain kinds of "charity" is an act of resistance. We know also that Lions do NOT eat oats… what are these people even on about?! They are waiting for the skeletal looking lions so they can film them and say how horrible Palestinians are to deny food to caged animals…

if that is not simply an image of every Palestinian in Gaza and how they are caged in and starved to death by Israelis, I do not know what on earth is.

but Israelis remain blinded to pain of others.

]]> By: kitsia http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/02/20/if-gazans-want-compassion-from-israelis-they-should-grow-a-tail/#comment-6711 kitsia Sat, 28 Feb 2009 04:41:18 +0000 http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/02/20/if-gazans-want-compassion-from-israelis-they-should-grow-a-tail/#comment-6711 Hi Mary, Glad to meet some one who is a pacifist right down the line which includes animals. I too am a vegetarian and believe animals are not ours to use abuse eat or use for entertainment. It is not just Israeli hearts that seem to soften but the world when the story is about animals suffering. The horrific pictures of carnage, especially of children in Gaza does not seem to soften hearts, yet animals do. I read a story that a doctor in Gaza told. He said, get a box and put 4 kittens inside, while a camera is running, then close the lid, put it on the ground and stomp on it several times. Lift the box, open it up and show the camera the damage done to the kittens. He said if this went on the news, there would be an international outrage. He said ARE PALESTINIAN CHILDREN WORTH LESS THAN KITTENS ????? What is wrong with the world, that nearly 500 children are dead and thousands more are injured, some permanently disabled, and world leaders and people are not screaming outrage !!!! Other Gazan children are malnourished and this is a direct responsibility of Israel as the Palestinian children are occupied and therefore at the mercy of Israel for their wellbeing. Not only are these childen being abused by the Israelis they are exterminating and maiming them. And yet what we keep hearing ad nauseum on the news is Israel is DEFENDING ITSELF There were NO ISRAELI CHILDREN WHO DIED OR WERE MAIMED BY THE PALESTINIANS !!!!!?????!!!! My heart bleeds for the Palestinians and their animals. The brutality of Israel [and their stupid "friends"] is worse than anything the Nazis did.. Why can the world not see this.???? Politics gone mad, and en mass indocrination is to blame. Truth is not reported on prime time TV anymore, and we see the consequences in strange attitudes of practically inhuman thinking of mainstream masses. The Israelis and zionism have done their job too well and the world is a tangle of lies.. Hi Mary,
Glad to meet some one who is a pacifist right down the line which includes animals. I too am a vegetarian and believe animals are not ours to use abuse eat or use for entertainment.
It is not just Israeli hearts that seem to soften but the world when the story is about animals suffering.
The horrific pictures of carnage, especially of children in Gaza does not seem to soften hearts, yet animals do. I read a story that a doctor in Gaza told. He said, get a box and put 4 kittens inside, while a camera is running, then close the lid, put it on the ground and stomp on it several times. Lift the box, open it up and show the camera the damage done to the kittens.
He said if this went on the news, there would be an international outrage. He said ARE PALESTINIAN CHILDREN WORTH LESS THAN KITTENS ?????
What is wrong with the world, that nearly 500 children are dead and thousands more are injured, some permanently disabled, and world leaders and people are not screaming outrage !!!!
Other Gazan children are malnourished and this is a direct responsibility of Israel as the Palestinian children are occupied and therefore at the mercy of Israel for their wellbeing. Not only are these childen being abused by the Israelis they are exterminating and maiming them.
And yet what we keep hearing ad nauseum on the news is Israel is DEFENDING ITSELF
There were NO ISRAELI CHILDREN WHO DIED OR WERE MAIMED BY THE PALESTINIANS !!!!!?????!!!!
My heart bleeds for the Palestinians and their animals.
The brutality of Israel [and their stupid "friends"] is worse than anything the Nazis did..
Why can the world not see this.????
Politics gone mad, and en mass indocrination is to blame.
Truth is not reported on prime time TV anymore, and we see the consequences in strange attitudes of practically inhuman thinking of mainstream masses.
The Israelis and zionism have done their job too well and the world is a tangle of lies..

]]> By: Mary Rizzo http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/02/20/if-gazans-want-compassion-from-israelis-they-should-grow-a-tail/#comment-6683 Mary Rizzo Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:07:10 +0000 http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/02/20/if-gazans-want-compassion-from-israelis-they-should-grow-a-tail/#comment-6683 <a href='#comment-6681' rel="nofollow">@kitsia</a> - Thanks for your comment Kitsia, and as a lifelong vegetarian, (since 8 years of age) my only sins have been a leather jacket and boots.... I care very much about animals. However, there is great irony in the interest expressed in the animals and not in the humans, and as the article itself is unable to grasp the difference between a bombed city and a city that had less damage than my own street gets on New Years eve, (or when Italy wins the World Cup), i was shocked at how they portray themselves as caring people when they do care about animals, but not humans. Remember how it was always said that Hitler loved animals? I mean, there is something I find quite shameless in the way that they depict what they have done. Without remorse, I personally would toss the food back at them, and this is not because I don't think that the Palestinians want their beloved animals to do well, but they have dignity that cannot be bought for a publicity stunt like this is. A friend of mine in Gaza told me there was a drastic need for human blood. Where are the Israelis offering this? Why are lives of animals worth something and lives of humans are not worth anything? And, I really do NOT buy their story about making deals with Hamas. I can imagine the Israelis wanted to get the animals in the Zoo, but I really don't believe the story here about that. It is just one further thing to make Israelis look good while they are doing nothing. I don't want to put the motivations of the person on trial, but that sentence, "we don't expect thanks" was just... disgusting. @kitsia –
Thanks for your comment Kitsia, and as a lifelong vegetarian, (since 8 years of age) my only sins have been a leather jacket and boots…. I care very much about animals. However, there is great irony in the interest expressed in the animals and not in the humans, and as the article itself is unable to grasp the difference between a bombed city and a city that had less damage than my own street gets on New Years eve, (or when Italy wins the World Cup), i was shocked at how they portray themselves as caring people when they do care about animals, but not humans. Remember how it was always said that Hitler loved animals? I mean, there is something I find quite shameless in the way that they depict what they have done. Without remorse, I personally would toss the food back at them, and this is not because I don't think that the Palestinians want their beloved animals to do well, but they have dignity that cannot be bought for a publicity stunt like this is.

A friend of mine in Gaza told me there was a drastic need for human blood. Where are the Israelis offering this? Why are lives of animals worth something and lives of humans are not worth anything?

And, I really do NOT buy their story about making deals with Hamas. I can imagine the Israelis wanted to get the animals in the Zoo, but I really don't believe the story here about that. It is just one further thing to make Israelis look good while they are doing nothing.

I don't want to put the motivations of the person on trial, but that sentence, "we don't expect thanks" was just… disgusting.

]]> By: kitsia http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/02/20/if-gazans-want-compassion-from-israelis-they-should-grow-a-tail/#comment-6681 kitsia Thu, 26 Feb 2009 15:52:42 +0000 http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/02/20/if-gazans-want-compassion-from-israelis-they-should-grow-a-tail/#comment-6681 Mary, thank you for posting this article. I am an animal activist as well as a human rights activist. I have seen pictures of the destuction and massacre of Gaza including the Gaza Zoo on Palestinian Mothers. There was a blog posted on the zoo with pictures. I have done all I can do , and continue to do for Gaza, be it donation, or activism.My activism has also included letting animal organisations know about what the Israelis have done to animals in Gaza, shooting them in the streets, in the zoo, and bulldozing chicken farms. People massacred are on the news, and various agencies are now trying to get aid to people. The Israelis are not cooperating fully and have been told to stop preventing aid reaching the people of Gaza by H. Clinton. Animals have "no voice" and should not be overlooked, at least the people of Gaza have some voice. Animals are innocent victims of this massacre and should also receive food. Politics aside, animals also need aid, and thankfully an organisation has not forgotten them. I do not care if this aid comes from Israelis or from Italy or whoever. The people are suffering as are their animals, and I am grateful for some help no matter who gives it. Any living entity suffers, human and animal. It's not the Israeli government that is giving aid to the animals but an Israeli animal orgaisation, they are the closest and managed to get some aid. Perhaps PETA an international animal organisation helped fund this. The red cross and unwra and others are helping the people. I'm sure the Palestinians who love their animals are glad of this help. Who wants to see their animals suffer and die on top of seeing their children die. I know the point of this story, but , can you see mine? Mary, thank you for posting this article.
I am an animal activist as well as a human rights activist.
I have seen pictures of the destuction and massacre of Gaza including the Gaza Zoo on Palestinian Mothers. There was a blog posted on the zoo with pictures.
I have done all I can do , and continue to do for Gaza, be it donation, or activism.My activism has also included letting animal organisations know about what the Israelis have done to animals in Gaza, shooting them in the streets, in the zoo, and bulldozing chicken farms.
People massacred are on the news, and various agencies are now trying to get aid to people. The Israelis are not cooperating fully and have been told to stop preventing aid reaching the people of Gaza by H. Clinton.
Animals have "no voice" and should not be overlooked, at least the people of Gaza have some voice. Animals are innocent victims of this massacre and should also receive food. Politics aside, animals also need aid, and thankfully an organisation has not forgotten them. I do not care if this aid comes from Israelis or from Italy or whoever.
The people are suffering as are their animals, and I am grateful for some help no matter who gives it.
Any living entity suffers, human and animal. It's not the Israeli government that is giving aid to the animals but an Israeli animal orgaisation, they are the closest and managed to get some aid. Perhaps PETA an international animal organisation helped fund this. The red cross and unwra and others are helping the people. I'm sure the Palestinians who love their animals are glad of this help. Who wants to see their animals suffer and die on top of seeing their children die.
I know the point of this story, but , can you see mine?

]]> By: I voted Nader http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/02/20/if-gazans-want-compassion-from-israelis-they-should-grow-a-tail/#comment-6651 I voted Nader Wed, 25 Feb 2009 04:53:04 +0000 http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/02/20/if-gazans-want-compassion-from-israelis-they-should-grow-a-tail/#comment-6651 <a href='#comment-6621' rel="nofollow">@Mary Rizzo</a> - Dear Mary, This is the first time I've been here to this site. I found the article informative. and your personal responses sensible. Please ignore the fascists who have made their way to this site - probably with Megaphone - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megaphone_desktop_tool I also appreciate your taking the time to write about the animals. You are not alone in hoping that the world will bring a halt to this holocaust in a different time and place. @Mary Rizzo –

Dear Mary,

This is the first time I've been here to this site. I found the article informative. and your personal responses sensible. Please ignore the fascists who have made their way to this site – probably with Megaphone – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megaphone_desktop_tool

I also appreciate your taking the time to write about the animals. You are not alone in hoping that the world will bring a halt to this holocaust in a different time and place.

]]> By: Shaukat http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/02/20/if-gazans-want-compassion-from-israelis-they-should-grow-a-tail/#comment-6635 Shaukat Tue, 24 Feb 2009 11:05:57 +0000 http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/02/20/if-gazans-want-compassion-from-israelis-they-should-grow-a-tail/#comment-6635 Frankly I don't think even a tail would change Zionazis attitude toward Palestinian Muslims and Christians. They will still carry their religious hatred toward animals and the Gentiles: To heal the disease of pleurisy ("catarrh") - a Jew should take the excrement of a white dog and knead it with balsam, but if he can possibly avoid it he should not eat the dog's excrement as it loosens the limbs. Talmud, Pesahim 111a. It is forbidden for dogs, women or palm trees to pass between two men, nor may others walk between dogs, women or palm trees. Special dangers are involved if the women are menstruating or sitting at a crossroads. Talmud, Menahoth 43b-44a . Like A Virgin http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2009/02/22/out-of-the-overflow-of-the-heart-jesus-and-mary-as-vulgar-comedy-in-the-holy-land/ Frankly I don't think even a tail would change Zionazis attitude toward Palestinian Muslims and Christians. They will still carry their religious hatred toward animals and the Gentiles:

To heal the disease of pleurisy ("catarrh") – a Jew should take the excrement of a white dog and knead it with balsam, but if he can possibly avoid it he should not eat the dog's excrement as it loosens the limbs. Talmud, Pesahim 111a.

It is forbidden for dogs, women or palm trees to pass between two men, nor may others walk between dogs, women or palm trees. Special dangers are involved if the women are menstruating or sitting at a crossroads. Talmud, Menahoth 43b-44a .

Like A Virgin

http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2009/02/22/out-of-the-overflow-of-the-heart-jesus-and-mary-as-vulgar-comedy-in-the-holy-land/

]]> By: ioana http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/02/20/if-gazans-want-compassion-from-israelis-they-should-grow-a-tail/#comment-6633 ioana Tue, 24 Feb 2009 08:52:01 +0000 http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/02/20/if-gazans-want-compassion-from-israelis-they-should-grow-a-tail/#comment-6633 during Israel's bombings of Gaza, I found commentaries saying: "why talk about Gaza when there is Darfur?" - first, I ranged this as totally nonsensical; but then I found clues (like here http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/01/06/avrum-burg-can-the-jewish-people-survive-without-an-enemy/) and searched further, finding out that in Israel the humanitarian voluntary action is highly regarded - with the one condition that the conflict that gets their attention take place far away from Israel's borders. so that the Israeli citizens can safely spend their humanity elsewhere while keeping their eyes closed as far as their own Palestinian victims are concerned. I guess the same schema is perfectly applicable to the animals issue here. with the one mention that the above quoted article "Israeli animal charity sends..." also relies on a fallaciously reversed argument: while I agree that mistreating an animal is necessarily bad, doing good to animals does not necessarily make someone a good person. one can do good to animals - because they are "animated" - and then do good to every living thing in virtue of one's own goodness, or one can help only animals fanatically, without any rational approach and usually opposing the group of "animals" or "pets" to whatever else one needs to fight for one's own psychological comfort. the latter motivation describes the Israeli attitude - which is demonstrated by the fact that this is one of the few articles on this site to which I've seen comments pertaining to the Israeli position. moreover, on the Israeli news sites, ynetnews for example, whenever there is an article related to btselem (or any other Israeli organization that deals with Palestinian rights) the comments are overwhelmingly negative, rating any humanitarian action related to the Palestinian issue as "redundant", "unwanted" and "treacherous". during Israel's bombings of Gaza, I found commentaries saying: "why talk about Gaza when there is Darfur?" – first, I ranged this as totally nonsensical; but then I found clues (like here http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/01/06/avrum-burg-can-the-jewish-people-survive-without-an-enemy/) and searched further, finding out that in Israel the humanitarian voluntary action is highly regarded – with the one condition that the conflict that gets their attention take place far away from Israel's borders. so that the Israeli citizens can safely spend their humanity elsewhere while keeping their eyes closed as far as their own Palestinian victims are concerned.
I guess the same schema is perfectly applicable to the animals issue here. with the one mention that the above quoted article "Israeli animal charity sends…" also relies on a fallaciously reversed argument: while I agree that mistreating an animal is necessarily bad, doing good to animals does not necessarily make someone a good person. one can do good to animals – because they are "animated" – and then do good to every living thing in virtue of one's own goodness, or one can help only animals fanatically, without any rational approach and usually opposing the group of "animals" or "pets" to whatever else one needs to fight for one's own psychological comfort.
the latter motivation describes the Israeli attitude – which is demonstrated by the fact that this is one of the few articles on this site to which I've seen comments pertaining to the Israeli position.
moreover, on the Israeli news sites, ynetnews for example, whenever there is an article related to btselem (or any other Israeli organization that deals with Palestinian rights) the comments are overwhelmingly negative, rating any humanitarian action related to the Palestinian issue as "redundant", "unwanted" and "treacherous".

]]> By: Mary Rizzo http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/02/20/if-gazans-want-compassion-from-israelis-they-should-grow-a-tail/#comment-6621 Mary Rizzo Mon, 23 Feb 2009 22:27:01 +0000 http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/02/20/if-gazans-want-compassion-from-israelis-they-should-grow-a-tail/#comment-6621 <a href='#comment-6592' rel="nofollow">@yehadut</a> - What a joke! what is anti-semitic in a single word i wrote? It defies the imagination to see these people who probably did not bat an eyelash for the suffering of humans (calling them mass murderers) while they send oats to lions and then sniff back the tears and puff up their proud chests with "we don't expect a thank you"... they are a joke and so are you! @yehadut -
What a joke! what is anti-semitic in a single word i wrote?
It defies the imagination to see these people who probably did not bat an eyelash for the suffering of humans (calling them mass murderers) while they send oats to lions and then sniff back the tears and puff up their proud chests with "we don't expect a thank you"…
they are a joke and so are you!

]]> By: Mary Rizzo http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/02/20/if-gazans-want-compassion-from-israelis-they-should-grow-a-tail/#comment-6620 Mary Rizzo Mon, 23 Feb 2009 22:25:04 +0000 http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/02/20/if-gazans-want-compassion-from-israelis-they-should-grow-a-tail/#comment-6620 <a href='#comment-6580' rel="nofollow">@Karin Kloosterman</a> - you can learn a lot about people from how they treat people. @Karin Kloosterman –
you can learn a lot about people from how they treat people.

]]> By: yehadut http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/02/20/if-gazans-want-compassion-from-israelis-they-should-grow-a-tail/#comment-6592 yehadut Sun, 22 Feb 2009 17:08:36 +0000 http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/02/20/if-gazans-want-compassion-from-israelis-they-should-grow-a-tail/#comment-6592 You have so fallen for Palestinian propaganda that you find reality confusing. You can't fathom the simple truth that Israel is a very compassionate, decent country who sympathizes with the suffering of the Palestinian people but have no choice but to defend themselves -- imperfectly, perhaps, but as best they know how -- against mass murderers committed to their destruction. I know I won't convince someone who's already drunk the kool-aid that justifies terrorism and condemns self-defense, but hopefully stories like this will increase the chances that you think twice about your "Israel is evil" brainwashing. (Another sign of your prejudice is that you'd in any way associate the actions of this animal protection group with Israeli government policy. For all you know, they may disagree completely with government policy. Every individual in Israel is different. But you take a biased view lumping them all together until your effectively (if not intentionally) antisemitic banner of "Israelis are all evil") You have so fallen for Palestinian propaganda that you find reality confusing. You can't fathom the simple truth that Israel is a very compassionate, decent country who sympathizes with the suffering of the Palestinian people but have no choice but to defend themselves — imperfectly, perhaps, but as best they know how — against mass murderers committed to their destruction. I know I won't convince someone who's already drunk the kool-aid that justifies terrorism and condemns self-defense, but hopefully stories like this will increase the chances that you think twice about your "Israel is evil" brainwashing.

(Another sign of your prejudice is that you'd in any way associate the actions of this animal protection group with Israeli government policy. For all you know, they may disagree completely with government policy. Every individual in Israel is different. But you take a biased view lumping them all together until your effectively (if not intentionally) antisemitic banner of "Israelis are all evil")

]]> By: Karin Kloosterman http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/02/20/if-gazans-want-compassion-from-israelis-they-should-grow-a-tail/#comment-6580 Karin Kloosterman Sun, 22 Feb 2009 02:23:27 +0000 http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/02/20/if-gazans-want-compassion-from-israelis-they-should-grow-a-tail/#comment-6580 Mary, There is an important Jewish mitzvah (commandment) called tzar be'lechaim, which is intended to guard animals against cruelty. If a Jew sees an animal in distress, even if it is an "enemy's" animal, the Jew is commanded to help that animal. Dragging lions, bears and god-knows-what-other animals through the tunnels to prod and torture them shows the world how "humane" the Gazans really are. Then again, they throw their babies in the line of fire. See this video of the Gaza zoo: Gaza Zoo Is Hell for Animals http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/08/gaza-zoo-smuggles-lion-cubs.php You can learn a lot about people from how they treat animals. Mary,

There is an important Jewish mitzvah (commandment) called tzar be'lechaim, which is intended to guard animals against cruelty. If a Jew sees an animal in distress, even if it is an "enemy's" animal, the Jew is commanded to help that animal.

Dragging lions, bears and god-knows-what-other animals through the tunnels to prod and torture them shows the world how "humane" the Gazans really are. Then again, they throw their babies in the line of fire.

See this video of the Gaza zoo:

Gaza Zoo Is Hell for Animals
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/08/gaza-zoo-smuggles-lion-cubs.php

You can learn a lot about people from how they treat animals.

]]> By: Gaza » Blog Archive » If Gazans want compassion from Israelis, they should grow a tail http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/02/20/if-gazans-want-compassion-from-israelis-they-should-grow-a-tail/#comment-6545 Gaza » Blog Archive » If Gazans want compassion from Israelis, they should grow a tail Fri, 20 Feb 2009 16:40:02 +0000 http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/02/20/if-gazans-want-compassion-from-israelis-they-should-grow-a-tail/#comment-6545 [...] Palestine Think Tank wrote an interesting post today on If Gazans want compassion from Israelis, they should grow a tailHere’s a quick excerptSick and starving animals soften Israeli hearts: There never is a limit to the absurd. In a period when Israelis approve of killing and starving human beings, they find enough compassion so that they can get animal feed into the Gaza Zoo. I found this piece in Israel 21C (the site that brags about the high tech of Israel) and was dumbstruck reading it. I will add a few comments within in Blue Israeli animal charity sends aid to Gaza zoo By Abigail Klein-Leichman    Truckloads of food [...] [...] Palestine Think Tank wrote an interesting post today on If Gazans want compassion from Israelis, they should grow a tailHere's a quick excerptSick and starving animals soften Israeli hearts: There never is a limit to the absurd. In a period when Israelis approve of killing and starving human beings, they find enough compassion so that they can get animal feed into the Gaza Zoo. I found this piece in Israel 21C (the site that brags about the high tech of Israel) and was dumbstruck reading it. I will add a few comments within in Blue Israeli animal charity sends aid to Gaza zoo By Abigail Klein-Leichman    Truckloads of food [...]

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