Comments on: Another Nakba in the Making?? http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/01/18/another-nakba-in-the-making/ Free Minds for a Free Palestine Sun, 21 Mar 2010 19:34:06 +0300 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Mary Rizzo http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/01/18/another-nakba-in-the-making/#comment-5604 Mary Rizzo Tue, 20 Jan 2009 14:21:36 +0000 http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/01/18/another-nakba-in-the-making/#comment-5604 Ms Kahn, I hope you are able to rationally see what is before your eyes. Andrew posted your "private email" in a comment. Since I do NOT delete comments others make because third parties demand it, and I have clearly stated that you have to ask the person who left the comment to fulfil your request and to ask me to please remove the comment, it will remain as it is until you have acted in a way that is correct to both Andrew and myself. Perhaps it is wrong for PTT to be associated with YOU, have you not thought of this? Perhaps also you should contemplate another fact: the information was barely disseminated at all, and where it was, you ask it be removed or the source to be taken away, albeit your comrade wanted HIS name removed, but the information to still be disseminated here? A bit inconsistent, and furthermore, one wonders several things: 1) if indeed you are looking to eliminate your names becuase the information is false? 2) if you do not care enough about the information and would rather engage in some ridiculous game of smearing that none of us here are able to understand. at any rate, you damage your own credibility and the questions remain intact. You have been given contact info by a personal email by me, which you did not respond to. Ernesto as well was given my phone number to pass along to you. If you persist in this sort of behaviour, no matter how greatly you believe you alone are doing good for the Palestinian people, you are creating an environment of hostility within those who are disseminating information that is totally unsuitable to the situation we are in. you may ask Ernesto his opinion of me, he as well formed a translation collective with me, so obviously he is deeply affiliated with me, as are hundreds of others. You seem to come out of the blue and expect people to bend to your beck and call and to judge them. Well, hundreds will be on your blacklist, are you satisfied yet? Ms Kahn, I hope you are able to rationally see what is before your eyes. Andrew posted your "private email" in a comment. Since I do NOT delete comments others make because third parties demand it, and I have clearly stated that you have to ask the person who left the comment to fulfil your request and to ask me to please remove the comment, it will remain as it is until you have acted in a way that is correct to both Andrew and myself. Perhaps it is wrong for PTT to be associated with YOU, have you not thought of this?

Perhaps also you should contemplate another fact: the information was barely disseminated at all, and where it was, you ask it be removed or the source to be taken away, albeit your comrade wanted HIS name removed, but the information to still be disseminated here? A bit inconsistent, and furthermore, one wonders several things:
1) if indeed you are looking to eliminate your names becuase the information is false?
2) if you do not care enough about the information and would rather engage in some ridiculous game of smearing that none of us here are able to understand.

at any rate, you damage your own credibility and the questions remain intact.

You have been given contact info by a personal email by me, which you did not respond to. Ernesto as well was given my phone number to pass along to you. If you persist in this sort of behaviour, no matter how greatly you believe you alone are doing good for the Palestinian people, you are creating an environment of hostility within those who are disseminating information that is totally unsuitable to the situation we are in.

you may ask Ernesto his opinion of me, he as well formed a translation collective with me, so obviously he is deeply affiliated with me, as are hundreds of others. You seem to come out of the blue and expect people to bend to your beck and call and to judge them. Well, hundreds will be on your blacklist, are you satisfied yet?

]]> By: Yael Kahn http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/01/18/another-nakba-in-the-making/#comment-5600 Yael Kahn Tue, 20 Jan 2009 13:34:27 +0000 http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/01/18/another-nakba-in-the-making/#comment-5600 I reiterate my request that you remove my private email to Arlo / Andrew, which was posted on January 19th, 2009 at 2:47 on your website without my consent or knowledge. When I wrote to him I did not know he was associated with the PTT website. I reiterate my request that you remove my private email to Arlo / Andrew, which was posted on January 19th, 2009 at 2:47 on your website without my consent or knowledge. When I wrote to him I did not know he was associated with the PTT website.

]]> By: Gilad http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/01/18/another-nakba-in-the-making/#comment-5594 Gilad Tue, 20 Jan 2009 11:46:42 +0000 http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/01/18/another-nakba-in-the-making/#comment-5594 Mary, this site is neither a synagogue nor an occupied territory Just ignore this two idiotic jokers. We have better thing to do... Mary, this site is neither a synagogue nor an occupied territory
Just ignore this two idiotic jokers.

We have better thing to do…

]]> By: Mary Rizzo http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/01/18/another-nakba-in-the-making/#comment-5585 Mary Rizzo Tue, 20 Jan 2009 08:27:21 +0000 http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/01/18/another-nakba-in-the-making/#comment-5585 One last thing, Ms Kahn, if AJ posted up the letters, you take it up with HIM, and ask HIM to ask me to remove them. I am not at your orders, although you may think that I am. One last thing, Ms Kahn, if AJ posted up the letters, you take it up with HIM, and ask HIM to ask me to remove them. I am not at your orders, although you may think that I am.

]]> By: Mary Rizzo http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/01/18/another-nakba-in-the-making/#comment-5584 Mary Rizzo Tue, 20 Jan 2009 08:25:03 +0000 http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/01/18/another-nakba-in-the-making/#comment-5584 Yael, REMOVE YOUR LETTER TO AJ? I didn't even publish one, so please tell me what you are on about! What is your problem with PTT, and be specific. Evidently, AJ and Ernesto feel it is a more than valid source. You did not have the decency to tell me directly what the problem was, but sent an E to AJ, who kindly forwarded it to me, so that at least I knew where your complaining was coming from, albeit, with no explanation for your smears. Why not ask them to publicly state what they think of PTT. It is a site that is very much welcomed and respected by all but a handful of smear artists and Zionists. Which one are you? Try to concentrate on doing good for the people in Gaza who are suffering, and less about smearing others with your ridiculous games. M Rizzo Yael, REMOVE YOUR LETTER TO AJ?
I didn't even publish one, so please tell me what you are on about! What is your problem with PTT, and be specific. Evidently, AJ and Ernesto feel it is a more than valid source. You did not have the decency to tell me directly what the problem was, but sent an E to AJ, who kindly forwarded it to me, so that at least I knew where your complaining was coming from, albeit, with no explanation for your smears. Why not ask them to publicly state what they think of PTT. It is a site that is very much welcomed and respected by all but a handful of smear artists and Zionists. Which one are you?

Try to concentrate on doing good for the people in Gaza who are suffering, and less about smearing others with your ridiculous games.
M Rizzo

]]> By: Mary Rizzo http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/01/18/another-nakba-in-the-making/#comment-5582 Mary Rizzo Tue, 20 Jan 2009 07:54:44 +0000 http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/01/18/another-nakba-in-the-making/#comment-5582 Rob, I will leave the entire post blank... so much for your brave efforts of circulating this news. I hope you are now going to be satisfied. And, like Yael, no reason to me as to why PTT is ungodly. Please be kind enough to say why, as I am being kind enough first to immediately circulate and NOW to obey your perentory orders. Rizzo Mary Rob, I will leave the entire post blank… so much for your brave efforts of circulating this news.

I hope you are now going to be satisfied.

And, like Yael, no reason to me as to why PTT is ungodly. Please be kind enough to say why, as I am being kind enough first to immediately circulate and NOW to obey your perentory orders.
Rizzo Mary

]]> By: Rob http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/01/18/another-nakba-in-the-making/#comment-5577 Rob Mon, 19 Jan 2009 23:07:40 +0000 http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/01/18/another-nakba-in-the-making/#comment-5577 Please remove my private email to Ernesto, with all my details, from your PTT website immediately. This was a private email to another party. I request that this email and any others comments and references to me be removed immediately. Thank you Rob Please remove my private email to Ernesto, with all my details, from your PTT website immediately. This was a private email to another party.
I request that this email and any others comments and references to me be removed immediately.
Thank you
Rob

]]> By: Gilad http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/01/18/another-nakba-in-the-making/#comment-5576 Gilad Mon, 19 Jan 2009 22:48:35 +0000 http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/01/18/another-nakba-in-the-making/#comment-5576 <a href='#comment-5570' rel="nofollow">@Yael Kahn</a> - Yael Can you suggest to us all what is your problem exactly Just do that before you tell us what to do and what to remove. You see, this is a Palestinian solidarity site and a very popular one, we support Palestinian resistance. Thus, we really don't like it when Israelis like yourself come over and start to give us orders. @Yael Kahn –

Yael
Can you suggest to us all what is your problem exactly

Just do that before you tell us what to do and what to remove.

You see, this is a Palestinian solidarity site and a very popular one, we support Palestinian resistance.

Thus, we really don't like it when Israelis like yourself come over and start to give us orders.

]]> By: Gilad http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/01/18/another-nakba-in-the-making/#comment-5575 Gilad Mon, 19 Jan 2009 22:42:11 +0000 http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/01/18/another-nakba-in-the-making/#comment-5575 <a href='#comment-5562' rel="nofollow">@Mary Rizzo</a> - "Gilad, apparently she has done some things, as some people have told me." I am sure she did, i just noticed that her activism is hardly noticeable on google... @Mary Rizzo –

"Gilad, apparently she has done some things, as some people have told me."

I am sure she did, i just noticed that her activism is hardly noticeable on google…

]]> By: Yael Kahn http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/01/18/another-nakba-in-the-making/#comment-5570 Yael Kahn Mon, 19 Jan 2009 20:05:12 +0000 http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/01/18/another-nakba-in-the-making/#comment-5570 Please remove my email to AJ. I have never consented to have my emails posted at the PTT website. At the time when I wrote to him I did not know he was associated with the PTT website. Please remove my email to AJ. I have never consented to have my emails posted at the PTT website. At the time when I wrote to him I did not know he was associated with the PTT website.

]]> By: sarah http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/01/18/another-nakba-in-the-making/#comment-5563 sarah Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:12:11 +0000 http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/01/18/another-nakba-in-the-making/#comment-5563 Yael, forgive me but you sound ever so slightly hysterical. Personally, I have always found that the process of debating, demanding, negotiating is often far more effective if you present a logical framework, commonly known as ‘an argument’. WAWODS (Women against Women with Oratory Deficiency Syndrome) Yael, forgive me but you sound ever so slightly hysterical. Personally, I have always found that the process of debating, demanding, negotiating is often far more effective if you present a logical framework, commonly known as ‘an argument’.

WAWODS (Women against Women with Oratory Deficiency Syndrome)

]]> By: Mary Rizzo http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/01/18/another-nakba-in-the-making/#comment-5562 Mary Rizzo Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:05:14 +0000 http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/01/18/another-nakba-in-the-making/#comment-5562 Gilad, apparently she has done some things, as some people have told me. The problem here is not that she is some unknown who then makes demands, the problem is that the information, which supposedly was quite important, and if true, is very important indeed, was sent by her to whoever her contacts are. I happen to have a few of them as contacts, who also support this site fully and one even founded Tlaxcala with me! So, naturally, I put it up and to then be DEMANDED to take it down, without explanation, well, that is odd to put it mildly. So, the e you see above which I sent was given an answer to yet ANOTHER person, (not me... seems as if she needs an amaneuse) which was just take it down, i don't want to be associated with that site... So, taken down HER part, it was, at the risk of losing the information, which apparently isn't that important to her after all? I have stopped trying to figure these characters out, because they act like this then say WE are the ones "dividing the movement". Weird and very unreliable folks and I would warn anyone taking her seriously if this is the example of what happens when one disseminates to their trusted affiliates the material she sends. They have to play tag all day with her. Ridiculous. Gilad, apparently she has done some things, as some people have told me.

The problem here is not that she is some unknown who then makes demands, the problem is that the information, which supposedly was quite important, and if true, is very important indeed, was sent by her to whoever her contacts are. I happen to have a few of them as contacts, who also support this site fully and one even founded Tlaxcala with me! So, naturally, I put it up and to then be DEMANDED to take it down, without explanation, well, that is odd to put it mildly.

So, the e you see above which I sent was given an answer to yet ANOTHER person, (not me… seems as if she needs an amaneuse) which was just take it down, i don't want to be associated with that site…

So, taken down HER part, it was, at the risk of losing the information, which apparently isn't that important to her after all?

I have stopped trying to figure these characters out, because they act like this then say WE are the ones "dividing the movement". Weird and very unreliable folks and I would warn anyone taking her seriously if this is the example of what happens when one disseminates to their trusted affiliates the material she sends. They have to play tag all day with her. Ridiculous.

]]> By: Gilad http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/01/18/another-nakba-in-the-making/#comment-5557 Gilad Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:38:13 +0000 http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/01/18/another-nakba-in-the-making/#comment-5557 Who is Yael Kahn, I have never heard her name before. I checked out on Google and the only Pls reference (i could find) associated with that name was actually the ppt entry: Palestine Think Tank 19 Jan 2009 ... This is what Yael Kahn wrote on my site under the post: Yael Kahn Please URGENTLY remove my letters from your website. ... palestinethinktank.com/ - 58k - Cached - Similar pages I think that we must refrain from anyone who operates politically as a chosen one!!! Let's move on Who is Yael Kahn, I have never heard her name before.

I checked out on Google and the only Pls reference (i could find) associated with that name was actually the ppt entry:

Palestine Think Tank
19 Jan 2009 … This is what Yael Kahn wrote on my site under the post: Yael Kahn Please URGENTLY remove my letters from your website. …
palestinethinktank.com/ – 58k – Cached – Similar pages

I think that we must refrain from anyone who operates politically as a chosen one!!!

Let's move on

]]> By: paul http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/01/18/another-nakba-in-the-making/#comment-5543 paul Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:51:12 +0000 http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/01/18/another-nakba-in-the-making/#comment-5543 Ad the end ,and I hope, very soon.I wish. I can say. No, no executions(of Yew warcriminals) No huge inprissonment (Why shall we make all that effort} No Killings any more But You Get what You Deserve,All of You, and we let you free, On the Move ``To GAZA>>>Worldyewry!!!.Shit belongs to Shit. as palestine belongs to the Palestinians Bye Bye forever. Zionists!!!!***paul.n.l.*** Ad the end ,and I hope, very soon.I wish. I can say. No, no executions(of Yew warcriminals) No huge inprissonment (Why shall we make all that effort} No Killings any more But You Get what You Deserve,All of You, and we let you free, On the Move "To GAZA>>>Worldyewry!!!.Shit belongs to Shit. as palestine belongs to the Palestinians Bye Bye forever. Zionists!!!!***paul.n.l.***

]]> By: paul http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/01/18/another-nakba-in-the-making/#comment-5542 paul Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:28:21 +0000 http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/01/18/another-nakba-in-the-making/#comment-5542 Soon to be seen, The new paradise, (nearly) All over the world. And to be seen :The old Paradise- Gaza with all his Talmutic Yews in it and friends. We only need to close that wall FOREVER> Paulv.d.Akker. Soon to be seen, The new paradise, (nearly) All over the world. And to be seen :The old Paradise- Gaza with all his Talmutic Yews in it and friends. We only need to close that wall FOREVER> Paulv.d.Akker.

]]> By: paul http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/01/18/another-nakba-in-the-making/#comment-5541 paul Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:15:28 +0000 http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/01/18/another-nakba-in-the-making/#comment-5541 I wake up: .................and ,,Yes there is a final ``solution`` for this problem of humanity,This trouble making merciless killing Yews. Give Them Gaza all off it. But give Palestine back to his inhabitans``The palestinians``, As a re-pay -wiedergutmachung......They can do what they want in Gaza,all Israely loving Yews and Neocon,s It,s a bit small ,... but you can manage, but there is not any helper anymore. have to fix it yourselves,You and a suitcase tats it. and All. Start Fishing plant three,s,as you learnt it in ``the Kibbuts ``Be happy all together. We Close the Wall compleet forever.There God may serve them. as ,Choosen people beings. We do,nt Want Them Anymore as love loving people all over Gods world. But we are not Masskilers so YEWS, On The Move ``TO GAZA>>>>>Paul van den Akker N.L. I wake up: ……………..and ,,Yes there is a final "solution" for this problem of humanity,This trouble making merciless killing Yews. Give Them Gaza all off it. But give Palestine back to his inhabitans"The palestinians", As a re-pay -wiedergutmachung……They can do what they want in Gaza,all Israely loving Yews and Neocon,s It,s a bit small ,… but you can manage, but there is not any helper anymore. have to fix it yourselves,You and a suitcase tats it. and All. Start Fishing plant three,s,as you learnt it in "the Kibbuts "Be happy all together. We Close the Wall compleet forever.There God may serve them. as ,Choosen people beings. We do,nt Want Them Anymore as love loving people all over Gods world. But we are not Masskilers so YEWS, On The Move "TO GAZA>>>>>Paul van den Akker N.L.

]]> By: paul http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/01/18/another-nakba-in-the-making/#comment-5540 paul Mon, 19 Jan 2009 11:45:55 +0000 http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/01/18/another-nakba-in-the-making/#comment-5540 well according to the last Yael Kahn ,You may place my name and adress if you want. I have a Dream. By UN, the state of Israel was to an end and illegal. All of the people of Gaza went for a short time to Egypt With all the help of the worldorganisations. .The dismanteld Yews on the other side were moved all into Gaza. The big prisson for all of those Warcriminals ,And after the last ,Close the walls .We are democratic so, no deadpenalty,s and they are free to live alltogether in Gaza and work hard to start a new kommunity. As... GODS Choosen, God will surely help you . We ,all people of the world ,We do not want anymore. So Israel in Gaza, And all Palestinians back in their palestina And they can take what they want.Gaza Oh Gaza, all the Yews , Yews only, God will serve you the blood of all the innocent palestinians Dobble .And there wil be No Helper ***Paul van den Akker*** Dordrecht. The netherlands well according to the last Yael Kahn ,You may place my name and adress if you want. I have a Dream. By UN, the state of Israel was to an end and illegal. All of the people of Gaza went for a short time to Egypt With all the help of the worldorganisations. .The dismanteld Yews on the other side were moved all into Gaza. The big prisson for all of those Warcriminals ,And after the last ,Close the walls .We are democratic so, no deadpenalty,s and they are free to live alltogether in Gaza and work hard to start a new kommunity. As… GODS Choosen, God will surely help you . We ,all people of the world ,We do not want anymore. So Israel in Gaza, And all Palestinians back in their palestina And they can take what they want.Gaza Oh Gaza, all the Yews , Yews only, God will serve you the blood of all the innocent palestinians Dobble .And there wil be No Helper ***Paul van den Akker*** Dordrecht. The netherlands

]]> By: pam http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/01/18/another-nakba-in-the-making/#comment-5537 pam Mon, 19 Jan 2009 11:26:25 +0000 http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/01/18/another-nakba-in-the-making/#comment-5537 Yael, is it the Islington website you want to be taken off? Yibna? Yael, is it the Islington website you want to be taken off? Yibna?

]]> By: Yael Kahn http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/01/18/another-nakba-in-the-making/#comment-5536 Yael Kahn Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:55:40 +0000 http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/01/18/another-nakba-in-the-making/#comment-5536 Please URGENTLY remove my letters from your website. I do not want my letters published on your website. Please URGENTLY remove my letters from your website. I do not want my letters published on your website.

]]> By: Chris Ferrell http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/01/18/another-nakba-in-the-making/#comment-5519 Chris Ferrell Mon, 19 Jan 2009 03:00:04 +0000 http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/01/18/another-nakba-in-the-making/#comment-5519 Mary, I have been thinking about this since the Gaza onslaught started, but the question that comes to my mind is - how much money is the US going to have to pay to Mubarak to let the Palestinians into Egypt? He will never let them mix with the Egyptian popualtion. He is already in trouble thanks to Egyptians that demand democratic elections and vote for the Muslim Brotherhood. He will see the Palestinians as a dangerous radical group that further threatens his hold on power. It is unfortunate, but I wager that the will be held in a permanent refugee camp as they were in Lebanon. Mary,

I have been thinking about this since the Gaza onslaught started, but the question that comes to my mind is – how much money is the US going to have to pay to Mubarak to let the Palestinians into Egypt?

He will never let them mix with the Egyptian popualtion. He is already in trouble thanks to Egyptians that demand democratic elections and vote for the Muslim Brotherhood. He will see the Palestinians as a dangerous radical group that further threatens his hold on power.

It is unfortunate, but I wager that the will be held in a permanent refugee camp as they were in Lebanon.

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