Gilad Atzmon - Eine Kleine Nacht Murder: How Israeli Leaders Kill for their People's Votes
By Gilad Atzmon • Dec 29th, 2008 at 13:17 • Category: Analysis, Features, Gilad Atzmon, Gilad's Choice, Israel, Newswire, Our Authors, Palestine, Religion, War, Zionism
In order to grasp the latest devastating murderous Israeli expedition in Gaza one must deeply comprehend the Israeli identity and its inherent hatred towards anyone who fails to be Jewish and a hatred against Arabs in particular. This hatred is imbued in the Israeli curriculum, it is preached by political leaders and implied by their acts, it is conveyed by cultural figures, even within the so-called ‘Israeli Left’.
I grew up in Israel in the 1970’s people of my generation are nowadays the leaders of the Israeli army, politics, economy, academia and the arts. We were trained to believe that ‘a good Arab is a dead one’. A few weeks before I joined the IDF in the early 1980’s, General Rafael Eitan, the Chief of Staff at the time announced that the “Arabs were stoned cockroaches in a bottle”. He got away with it, he also got away with the murder of many thousands of Lebanese civilians in the 1st Lebanon war. In a word, Israelis manage to get away with murder.
Luckily enough, and for reasons that are still far beyond my comprehension, at a certain stage I woke up out of that Hebraic lethal dream. At one point I left the Jewish state, I evaded the Jewish hate mongering, I had become an opponent of the Jewish state and any other form of Jewish politics. However, I am utterly convinced that it is my primary duty to inform every being that is willing to listen about that which are we up against.
As much as Zionism was there to transform Jews, and by “giving them a State of their own” make them like any other people, it failed miserably. The Israeli barbarism as we have seen this week and too many times before is far beyond bestiality. It is killing for the sake of killing. And it is indiscriminate.
Not many people in the west are aware of the devastating fact that killing Arabs and Palestinians in particular is a very effective Israeli political recipe. The Israelis are indeed confused people. As much as they insist upon seeing themselves as a ‘Shalom seeking’[1][1] nation, they also love to be led by politicians with an astonishing record of unlawful murderous activity. Whether it was Sharon, Rabin, Begin, Shamir or Ben Gurion, Israelis love their ‘democratically elected leaders’ to be belligerent hawks with their hands dripping with blood and backed by a solid record of crimes against humanity.
We are weeks before an election in Israel and as it seems, both Kadima PM candidate Foreign minister Tzipi Livni and Labour PM candidate Defence minister Ehud Barak, are trailing well behind Likud PM candidate the notorious Hawk Benjamin (Bibi) Netanyahu. Livni and Barak need their little war. They must prove to the Israelis that they know how to engage in mass slaughter.
Both Livni and Barak have to provide the Israeli voter with some real exhibition of devastating carnage, so the Israelis can trust their leadership. This is their only chance against Netanyahu. Seemingly, Livni and Barak are throwing tons of bombs on Palestinian civilians, schools and hospitals because this is exactly what the Israelis want to see.
Unfortunately, Israelis are not known for mercy and grace. Instead they are appeased by retaliation and vengeance, they are cheered by their own limitless brutality. When an Ex-Israeli Air Force Chief Commander Dan Halutz was asked how it feels to drop a bomb on a highly populated neighbourhood in Gaza, his answer was short and precise. ‘It feels like a light bump on the right wing’. Dan Halutz’s cold deadly manner was enough to secure his promotion into the IDF Chief of Staff post shortly thereafter. It was General Halutz who led the Israeli army into the second Lebanon war, it was this man who perpetrated the destruction of Lebanese infrastructure and large parts of Beirut.
Seemingly, in Israeli politics, Arab blood is translated into votes. It would obviously be very reasonable to charge Livni, Barak and the current IDF Chief of Staff Ashkenazi with first-degree murder, crimes against humanity and the obvious breach of the Geneva Convention. But it would be far more intelligible to take into account that Israel is a ‘democracy’. Livni, Barak and Ashkenazi are giving the Israeli people that which they want: it is called Arab blood and it must come in vast quantity. This repetitive murderous practice, conducted by Israeli politicians reflects on the Israeli people as a whole rather than just a few politicians and generals. We are dealing here with a barbarian society that is politically driven by bloodthirstiness and lethal inclinations. There should be no mistake, there is no room for these people amongst nations.
Why the Israeli are people so remote from any notion of humanism is a big question. The generous and naïve humanists amongst us may argue that the Shoah left a big scar in the Israeli soul. This may explain why Israelis are obsessively cultivating that very memory with the support of their Diaspora brothers and sisters. The Israelis say ‘never again’ and what they mean is that Auschwitz should never reoccur, this somehow allows them to punish the Palestinian for the crimes committed by the Nazis. The realistic amongst us do not buy this argument anymore. They start now to admit that it is more than possible that the Israelis are so incredibly brutal just because this is how they are. It goes far beyond rationality or pseudo-analytical assumptions. They say, ‘this is what the Israelis are and there is not much we can do about it anymore’. The realistic amongst us come to admit that killing is how the Israelis interpret the meaning of being Jewish. Gravely, many of us come to admit that there is no alternative humanist secular Jewish value system to replace the Hebraic murderous one. The Jewish state is there to prove that Jewish national autonomy is an inhuman concept.
I grew up in post-1967 Israel. I was raised in the wake of the Israeli mythical victory, we were trained to worship the “Israeli who shoots from the hip” the platoon commando who shoots his Uzi automatic rifle in the direction of the Arabs and manages to win against four armies in just six days.
It may have taken me two decades too long to understand that the Israeli who ‘shoots from the hip’, was actually the master of indiscriminate killing. Barak was one of those 1967 heroes, he was a master indiscriminate killer. Apparently, the Israeli cabinet has just approved his plan for the biggest raid on Gaza since 1967. Livni is more or less my age, as we read the news, she internalised the message. She is now accumulating the necessary credentials as an indiscriminate murderer. Both Barak and Livni are taking Israel and Palestine into an election campaign of slaughter. Arab and Palestinian blood is the fuel of Israeli politics.
I may just suggest to Livni and Barak that it may not help them in the polls. Netanyahu is a genuine authentic hawk. He doesn’t have to pretend to be a murderer, and as much as I despise him, he has yet to take Israel into a war. He probably understands better than them what power of deterrence is all about.
[1][1] Do not confuse ‘shalom’ with ‘peace’ or ‘salam’. While peace and salam refer to reconciliation and compromise, shalom means security to the Jewish people on the expense of their surrounding environment.
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Exelent articel. Israel is CANCER of the Middle East just as AIPAC is cancer of US gowerment. People in Gaza are dying for all Muslims. If ARAB coutries will not UNITE against this SATANIC ideology ZIONISM, they will soon live in different Middle East under zionist occupation and it will be called NEW UNITED ARAB OCCUPAID TERRITORIES.
End of Zionism = WORLD PEACE.
Why don't you mention the continual rain of rockets on Sderot that provoked this response?
May God strike them all dead.
קצת יותר מדי הכללות. כל הישראלים רוצחים בדם קר חוץ ממך?
וזה ממישהי שממש מתנגדת למלחמה הזו.
@Tim - Tim, this is what most of the common men like me and you fail to understand. It is all staged. This is the entire zionist game plan. To establish a greater Israel at any cost. no matter what has to be done for it. Rocket fire from hamas is something that has no reported evidence. The zionists have always used such false flags to justify their planned shameful offenses. And even if there was rocket fire from the Hamas militants, the world should understand that there should always be clear cut terms of engagement in war. Israel has no such terms, hence the ruthless murder and bloodshed off hundreds of innocent civilians of Palestine. Think. Just THINK!
This is imho the best and the ONLY (sic!) true description of the jewnazi state of Israhell aka the cancer of the world and of the Israhellis, the jewnazis, ie. thieves, robbers, vandalizers, torturers, murderers, genociders and consummate liars, brought up in zionist/jewnazi families, in jewnazi schools, with jewnazi ideology, in whose speak 'shalom' means 'kill all arabs'…
Seeing Israhell's shameful and dirty history and especially recent crimes one can realize why throughout history there are mass hatred and so called holocaust popping up every now and then. I can see there will come another one. this time,though, all of them will be gone because this time the whole world is aware of their crimes thanks to fast communications. Israhell is just digging its grave and nearing its end at a faster pace.
For a people to be so bloodthirsty surely requires being raised on some misconceptions. Either historical inaccuracies or/and a faulty belief system. Isn't there a hidden hand of religious interpretation in an Israelis behaviour? Maybe this is a taboo subject.
@Tim -
Why don't the BBC or CNN or the rest of the Zionist-controlled mass media also remind us, every time they mention a Hamas rocket, that Israel is the occupying force and that the Palestinians are fighting for their OWN land? Wake up to what went before. Do you let people move into your living room, then systematically take over your entire house without a fight?
I believe that the reason Israel behaves so much like the Nazis they apparently abhor is because Israel is in fact a Crusader state run by the same state that set up Hitler, namely the Vatican. It is apparent that the Vatican controls the USA and Britain (look at the converts to Catholicism). The Vatican is immensely rich so it is they who control the "Jewish" bankers.
The cry of 'anti-semitism' is a useful smokescreen for the Vatican. It is possible that what is happening in Gaza is an experiment like what is going on in Zimbabwe (Mugabe has a Jesuit advisor, no wonder the USA and Australia (PM Rudd just appointed a Jesuit to look into human rights(?) declaration) do nothing, but talk about Mugabe). Indonesia, supposed the world's biggest Muslim nation, is run by the Vatican.
The bottom line is a return to the Medieval system when the Church (Vatican) and the rich and powerful lived in luxury, great power and despised the ordinary people.
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Last update - 02:15 30/12/2008
How we like our leaders
By Amira Hass
This isn't the time to speak of ethics, but of precise intelligence. Whoever gave the instructions to send 100 of our planes, piloted by the best of our boys, to bomb and strafe enemy targets in Gaza is familiar with the many schools adjacent to those targets - especially police stations. He also knew that at exactly 11:30 A.M. on Saturday, during the surprise assault on the enemy, all the children of the Strip would be in the streets - half just having finished the morning shift at school, the others en route to the afternoon shift.
This is not the time to speak of proportional responses, not even of the polls that promise a greater share of Knesset seats to the mission's architects. This is, however, the time to speak of the voters' belief the operation will succeed, that the strikes are precise and the targets justified.
Take, for example, Imad Aqel Mosque in Jabalya refugee camp, bombed and strafed shortly before midnight on Sunday. These are the names of the glorious military victory we achieved there - Jawaher, age 4; Dina, age 8; Sahar, age 12; Ikram, age 14; and Tahrir, age 17, all sisters of the Ba'lousha family, all killed in a "precise" strike on the mosque. Another three sisters, a 2-year-old brother and their parents were injured. Twenty-four neighbors were wounded and five homes and three stores destroyed. This part of the military victory did not open our television or radio news broadcasts yesterday morning, nor did they appear on many Israeli news Web sites.
This is the time to speak about the detailed maps in the hands of IDF commanders, and about the Shin Bet advisers who know the exact distance between the mosque and nearby homes. This is the time to discuss the drone planes and the hot air balloons fitted with advanced cameras floating over the Strip day and night, filming everything.
This is the time to rely on legal advisers studying the operation to find the right phrasing to justify "collateral damage." Time to praise Foreign Ministry spokespeople who in their polished language, with their elegant South African or charmant Parisien accents, say it is the fault of Hamas, which uses neighborhood mosques for its own purposes.
Talk of double standards has always been moot. Maybe there was a huge weapons store in the mosque. Maybe Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades militants met there every night and from there planned to launch their upgraded fighter jets.
Where does the IDF Chief of Staff sit when he draws up war plans? Not in the Sahara, or even in the Negev. What would happen if someone blew themselves up at the entrance to Tel Aviv's Cinematheque movie theater, and those who sent him said sorry, but he was headed for the Defense Ministry down the street?
This is not the time to recall long-forgotten history lessons to say this is not the way to topple a government. Nor is it the time to make rational recommendations for balanced statesmanship. The time for such things has passed, along with the New Order we once arrogantly tried to establish in Lebanon, which only brought us Hezbollah. Along with the Orientalists' plans to reduce the popularity of the PLO, which only paved the way for the emergence of a militant Islamic nationalist movement.
The time of such recommendations has passed, along with the grab of Palestinian lands and hyperactive construction of settlements in the Oslo era, which only laid the cornerstone for the second intifada and the fall of Fatah.
The era of reason and judgment died long ago, even before the targeted assassinations of Fatah activists in the West Bank, which soon turned into shooting attacks on soldiers and the emergence of another few thousand young people taking up arms, not to mention the phenomenon of suicide bombers.
It is never the right time to say "we told you so," because once it is possible to say those words, they are already invalid. We cannot revive the dead, nor repair the damage caused by arrogance and megalomania.
This is the time to speak of our own satisfaction and enjoyment. Satisfaction from tanks once again raising and lowering their barrels in preparation for a ground attack, satisfaction from our leaders' threatening finger-waving at the enemy. That's how we like our leaders - calling up reservists, sending pilots to bomb our enemies and manifesting national unity, from Baruch Marzel to Tzipi Livni, Netanyahu to Barak to Lieberman.
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[Some perspective and background information:
In the 7 (seven) years since the launching of the Palestinian primitive Qassam rockets started, and until this massacre started 3 days ago, they killed a total of 13 innocent Israelis and one foreigner.
In that period Israel killed 2990 Palestinians (634 of them children!) in the Gaza strip, (total of 4781 in Gaza and the West bank), very large number of the killed were innocent civilians, including many women and children.
See the Israeli human rights website for these statistics, circumstances of the killings and more: http://www.btselem.org .
Above figures do not include the many Palestinians in Gaza who died in the last 18 month due to the Israeli siege causing wide malnutrition and severe damage to the medical care in Gaza because of depletion of supplies and lack of medicines.]
The Palestinian people will survive; Zionism will not.
Gilad
Anachnu me'argenim mofa lichvod hahafzazot be'aza beramat gan.
Ata muchan lehophia, tekabel kesef ,
Azov at hashtuyot, tamid asita hakol chalturot ichatunot, Hayikar hakesef.
I grow up in Israel, in 67 I was 14. I have received hard core Zionist indoctrination, I would like to collaborate Gilad's statement; Israelis are educated in the most appallingly racist way. as a result Israeli pilots can drop 1 ton booms on the most populated area in the world. you have to arrive at a point when you don't regard the people on the ground as fully human to do that. This combination of racism and the monsters unleashing of unopposed force Is the Nazi way. TO HELP PALESTINE 1: AN INTERNATIONAL WARRANT SHOULD BE ISSUED IMMEDIATELY AGINST THE PERPETRATORS 2;THE I.D.F SHOULD BE DECLARED A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION
Zionism is absolutely NO different from Nazism.
Except that it enjoys US protection, of course.
Gilad Atzmon you gotta be careful man, telling the truth like that will land you in the same boat as Jack Bernstein. If there's one thing Israel can't stand it's one of their own telling it like it is. If they can't discredit you, they'll ignore you, if you can't be ignored, they'll get physical, if you can't be intimidated, you'll be martyred. As a slap in the face they'll probably blame the people you're protecting.
If everyone wrote under his or her real name, they'd have a hard job targetting us all. I'm sure it can be argued that there are good reasons to hide behind a pseudonym, but your comment doesn't carry a lot of weight when you do. Show the Palestinians that YOU care about them. It's time to stand up and be counted.
Quite a few books describe, and try to explain, the ruthless hatred by jews (not all of them, of course) towards non jews.
It is asserted that the worst effect of propaganda is that those who create is begin to believe it themselves.
Spinoza's explanation is that the jews were the first monotheists (though they may have been taught monotheism in Egypt), and that monotheism, contrary to polytheism, is intolerant.
In ancient times there was tolerance, each religion allowed others to have their own gods.
One can still see this for example on Sri Lanka, where one sees Bhudda and Hindu statues in the same temple.
Historians explain the emergence of monotheism by the desire of rulers for legitimacy.
There is no doubt that jews were persecuted in the western world, especially when this world was completely catholic.
Alas jews seem to have persisted in the behaviour that perhaps was necessary before they got equal rights after they got those equal rights.
How Russian jews resisted assimilation attempts is quite interesting, their resistance maye not have been the sole cause of the Russian revolution, but most certainly greatly contributed.
Hupchick describes the completely different attitude by the Balkan common people towards asjkenazi jews in comparison with sephardic jews.
The asjkenazi jews were seen as ruthless exploiters.
Benedict de Spinoza, ´A Theologico- political Treatise and A Political Treatise, (1670), Mineola NY, 2004
Israel Shahak, ‘Jewish History, Jewish Religion, The Weight of Three Thousand Years’, 1994, 2002, London
‘From prejudice to destruction’, Jacob Katz, 1980, Cambridge MA
Alexander Solschenizyn, ´Die russisch- jüdische Geschichte 1795- 1916, >> Zweihundert Jahre zusammen <<´, Moskau 2001, München 2002
Dennis P. Hupchick, ‘The Balkans, From Constantinople to Communism’, New York, 2001
I'm afraid this song may seem kind of soft in the face of the Israeli slaughter in Gaza, but please feel free to share, publish or use how you see fit. We very much enjoyed Gilad's piece. Thank you. Danny & Julia
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I may have sent this around already, but I thought I'd send it out again, especially in light of the recent air attacks. Here's hoping for a somber and reflective holiday to all who celebrate, and a call to action to all who look for peace, hope and renewal at year's end. love, Danny & Julia
Feel free to share, post, publish & distribute
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Text is below…
O Bethlehem - A Christmas Carol for the 21st Century
by Daniel Patrick Welch
O Bethlehem O Bethlehem
The stars look down on thee
As Nazareth reaps grief and death
From mountain, plain and sea
O Bethlehem a world bedecked
In season’s peace and joy
Will still sit by as children die
And walls your heart destroy
O Bethlehem O Bethlehem
The prophets surely frown
A land in pain, a land in chains
As Abraham looks down
O Bethlehem your children sleep
In fear of tanks and guns
Do Moses, Christ, Mohammed weep
As we betray their sons?
O Bethlehem we seek that day
When Christmas bells ring true
When liberty and dignity
Belong at last to you
Can Bethlehem forgive a world
So callous and profane
And bring to pass a world at last
Where peace and justice reign
© 2007 Daniel Patrick Welch. Reprint permission granted with credit and link to http://danielpwelch.com. Writer, singer, linguist and activist Daniel Patrick Welch lives and writes in Salem, Massachusetts, with his wife, Julia Nambalirwa-Lugudde. Together they
run The Greenhouse School (http://www.greenhouseschool.org). Translations of articles are available in up to 25 languages. Links to the website are appreciated at danielpwelch.com.
it is of course shocking to see the hailing reactions of jews in israel to the gaza massacre. i can't understand how even a several decade propaganda can make someone sustain a government that has killed more than 700 people in less than two weeks. secondly, one can find resembling opinions in countries other than israel - the pattern being: nothing "jewish" can be associated with any negative commentary because of the holocaust propaganda (which is bizarre, because disapproving of one's country's actions is otherwise a common practice); arabs are associated with terrorists; the dichotomy israeli-palestinian populations is percieved as civilised vs barbaric; a convenient leaning towards the most powerful side and towards the less risky opinion.
however, it is even more shocking to see the world's governments' reactions. they are obviously outraged at the events in gaza strip - so they are no longer blinded by the prejudices that deter ordinary people from understanding what is happening. but when it comes to declarations, they are always careful to keep them reversible - even the accusations are made towards both parties, so as not to position themselves against Israel (although it is Israel's military actions that has caused their concern). when it comes to actions, there is none. for economic or influential reasons, they will not take any effective stand against israel's murderous campaign. therefore the only profit one can draw from their reactions is inferring the real influence and power of israel.
so far, the only prospect for Gaza seems to be despair. and hope that they will resist it.
I think, this article is very subjective. Sure, the attack of Israel is disproportional but Israel has a privelege to exist. On this side, it is not fair to say, Israel has no right to defend itself. I think, the terror of war will continue as long as the Hamas don´t stop the bombing of Israel by Kassam rockets.
Gilad,
I agree the Israeli mentality has a very dominant aspect of having "the finger on the trigger", of lack of faith in the other side and in discrimination against the Arab population within its state and the Palestinian one in the occupied territories, and this war has shown us there is a clear hierarchy between the price of an Israeli life and a Palestinian one.
However, I don't understand how do you dismiss the nation's history as an important starting point for this mentality. Being persecuted for hundreds of years and being a victim of mass genocide just a few years before the founding of the state are clearly impossible to ignore. Do you really believe the Holocaust had no psychological effect whatsoever on its victims? Think about the reoccuring phenomena of rape victims who can't have a normal relationship, of molested children who become molesting parents. Again and again one finds the victims losing a fundamental faith in their surroundings and even in mankind. Now change "rape" or "molestation" to "(racially based) murder" and multiply by 6,000,000. Do you think all this pain simply disappears into thin air? Do you think this is the right mentality to found a state, 3 years after such a trauma?
So yes, the Israeli public is extremely paranoid, and very quick to react violently (as we know, not only in its foreign politics but within itself and on a day to day basis). And from someone like you, who I get the impression tends to think things through in a more critical way than most, it is surprising to find the quote "The realistic amongst us do not buy this argument anymore. They start now to admit that it is more than possible that the Israelis are so incredibly brutal just because this is how they are.". You do realize that if you change "Israelis" to "Arabs" in this context, this sounds just like something one would hear from a typical Israeli right winger. "The Arabs understand only force" is a cliché you must have heard at least a dozen times during the time you spent in Israel.
Of course, the Palestinian violence can also be explained and rationalized through their history and traumas (as well as present distress), but the typical blind-by-choice racist right wingers will choose to ignore this, as I believe you are doing in this essay, which is anti-intellectual by the nature of this irrational point you're making here. If I may be ironic and make a blunt generalization like you are making: you're describing the Israeli mentality the way an Israeli taxi driver would describe the Arabic one.
@Uri -
Uri
let's talk shortly about the big H and J eternal suffering…
So as it seems 3 years after the liberation of Auschwitz the new Isr ethnically cleansed the Pls.
This leaves us with 3 possible interpretations
1. They didn't internalize their pain, they didn't manage to gather the universal meaning of the H. Thus, they could easily inflict pain on others i.e the Pls. This would mean that they are inhuman. (Humans are taking lessons. the broken heart lover would refrain from inflicting pain on his new love)
2. They themselves do not believe the H narrative which they spread around so enthusiastically. This would mean that they are a bunch of liars.
3. We can also go along with the 'abused child' narrative which you seem to like. This would mean that they are a bunch of psychopaths.
Inhuman, Liars, Psychopaths, I let you choose…
The reason I prefer not to choose myself is because I do think it is meaningless. I just set the appropriate framework to question their brutality. The facts talk for themselves, the reasoning behind Israel's murderous inclinations is an academic topic. We can go back to it once the J state's lethal enthusiasm is curbed.
@Robert, Germany -
You say
"Israel has a privelege to exist"
Zionists say 'Israel has the right to exist'
I say No, it doesn't. If it had such a right, it lost it long time ago. The right to exist is something you have to prove and fight for through humanism.
first, let me please say once again that i recognize only palestine. having, said that, i note that the socalled jews (there's no shred of evidence that ashkenazic voelken are hebraic) are human.
to me, they are neither sub- nor superhuman nor a celestial people who s'mhow dropped on earth.
the difference btw israelis and the rest of us are in the main that they have military power and adhere to a cult. i said s'mwhere that a cult cannot tolerate any other cult.
so, cult+poweful bombs/missiles = mass murder. it may be noted that lotsof empires have behaved more or less like 'jews'.
americanism or zionism are two sisters in evil; tho each represents special case of land theft. as to why cultists behave the way they do, i have no elucidation. i think i'll let sociologists, anthropologists and other scientists to unravel the mystery and find the cure.
we can be sure that mad priests and pols + 'neo-educators' will never solve this problem; being selves clazy also. thnx
I notice that we are told that comments will not be allowed if they are 'Zionist propaganda', but we can feel free to do the opposite. Name calling is supposedly not allowed, but I suppose in your world Gilad, 'jewnazi' is perfectly acceptable (that appears quite a few times in one post). Is there a reason for this hypocrisy?
@Gina -
Gina, in part of this, you are right. Sbancan does use that word constantly, and perhaps it is an offensive word. In fact, to any Jew who does not in ANY way identify with Israel and with Israeli actions or philosophy, they might feel bad hearing the two used together as one word. But let's look at what we've just seen unfolding recently: a violent, devasting war against a civilian population that has been shoved into an open air prison and cut off from obtaining anything useful like food, medicine, education, clean water, petrol… you know, things that make life possible, that is not just some quirk of a mad maniac, but is supported as THE BEST SOLUTION to the firing of paper bombs that in years have caused less damage than what you will see on my street at the end of the New Year's Eve celebration, but is considered to be nerve-wracking (well, I think that reminding the Israelis that Gazans are still there and boxed in would be reason to wrack the nerves of someone) and therefore needing disproportionate response.
Yes, the absolute majority loved the devastation! Polls say that out of 100, 94 thought it was "good"… How is that for nice people? I would say that if they look into the pain they caused, which they don't, we could stop calling them Nazis.
Until they change, it won't be easy to "stop calling them names". I think they will survive.
I have no problem if you see this sit as hypocritical for not giving Zionists all the leg room they want. If it's a site that is not meant to give too much space to the vast and uniform world of Zionist thought (who have their own sites for it and who don't allow ME to leave comments), it really has a policy of "I just don't care what your story is, since it's based on a series of lies and atrocities". You have your outlets, we aren't interested in debating with you. You don't interest us. The site doesn't want Zionist propaganda, but puts up ideas that YOU would consider Palestinian propaganda, but to us are facts that can be documented, rather than slogans. I guess you can't make everyone pleased!
Gina: There is the truth, and there is propaganda, you have got to learn to distinguish between the two. If the TV and press coverage of the attacks on Gaza—as biased as much of it was towards Israel having the right to 'protect' itself—did not help you to discern the difference, then there is little that will help you. The bottom line is that: Israel has stolen the land of the Palestinians, and is now committing atrocities and war crimes in an attempt to keep it. Anything said or written which could be construed as denying these hard facts can only be classed as propaganda.
And, by the way, with all of the sophisticated weaponry used by Israel against people, did you see or hear of any attempt to shoot down any of the Hamas rockets? No, you did not, because no such attempts were made, and it is well known that this could have been achieved by ground- and air-to-air missiles, with quite a good success rate. That would have constituted protecting the Israeli settlers on the land they have stolen from the Palestinians, but that was not the choice of the laughably-named Israel Defence Forces; their method of 'protection' can be likened to that of a giant belting children over the head with a baseball bat and throwing acid in their faces (phosphorus), because they were kicking him in the shins with their tiny feet. Such behaviour disgusts me, and should disgust you.
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